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[Roger Oberholtzer]

On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 09:45:04 -0500
Rick Sivernell <res005ru at gte.net> wrote:

> List
> 
>    The following is not for everyone, only those who develope software
> and would like to assist in a sw project. I am in a course for my CSCI
> degree and taking a directed study. My project is a a IDE for Linux. I
> know there are those who do not like IDE's or just use a vi or such. In
> the next week or so I am going to be needing some eyes looking at some
> dialog boxes for correctness and good developer usability. Down the road
> in about 2 months testing the software. If you are interested and would
> like to help me, please contact me off list at email below. Upon
> completion, a final copy will be sent to all, as of yet I do not know if
> this will be a open source or commerical or a little of both. The code
> is in c++ and currently only c/c++ will be built. There are plans to
> expand to other project type. I will be the only one writing any code
> while this is still in my directed study.

The word 'project' got me. I would love an IDE that just let me make one
independent program, without all the fluff of a project. For this reason, I
am in the vi camp on this one. I do look at IDEs from time to time, but
nothing has really improved on vi and make. Once a 'project' is set up. most
tools in the IDE are no longer needed. So, you wind up with a monster
program that basically does editing and make, and perhaps pops your editor
to where an error occurred. In C++ it helps with following classes. But I
have always felt (age showing here) that if you need an IDE to tell what
your classes are doing, time to rethink the classes.

Also, it would be ever so useful if I could 'import' an existing program
AND make file. Sort of like "take what I have and let us start from there."
After all, if make can figure out what to do, the IDE should have all the
information to do the same. Then, let the user add IDE stuff as needed. But
don't require it.

Are you targeting current users of some IDE, neophyte programmers, or
vi/emacs/make users? I think they each have very different initial needs
that, to the extent they are met, will determine if they will continue with
the IDE.

MTCW.

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