Windows 2000 and linux on same box concurrently

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I've used VMware more than i'd like, with W2k on a linux host, and its
done what i've neededf.  Granted, that's primarily smoketesting various
kinds of broken M$ software in a linux environment.  As for graphic
intensive stuff, sure, it won't let you play Quake3, but for viewing still
images, its quite satisfactory.

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Wil McGilvery wrote:
> Just my 2 cents worth...
>
> I haven't used VMware, but I believe it will do what you want.
>
> I will say that I have never had a good experience with remotely using graphic intensive programs. The refresh rate has always been to slow, but I would like to know other peoples experiences.
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> Windows Terminal Server is not available on a Windows 2000 workstation. You need to buy a server for that capability and then there are the licenses required to use Terminal Server. Windows XP comes with remote desktop and you could use that on a Windows XP Pro Workstation. As I type this I can't remember if this would restrict users to one at a time or not. There are other remote access solutions such as Pcanywhere and Vnc, but they also only allow one remote user at a time.
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> Windows workstations also have a maximium of 10 concurrent connections at a time. (I don't know if this is an issue for you or not).
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> The setup described in your message will have to be a very powerful machine to run a program such as Photoshop along with 2 O/S 's and VMWare.
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> Here is my suggestion.
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> - In your lab, install Linux with terminal server or some other remote x solution for people to use the Linux programs on. (That is if your camera likes Linux.)
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> - Install Samba and allow the hospital Intranet to connect to the share that contains the photos. This will work very well and you do not need a Windows box to see or be seen on Windows network.
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> - allow people to manipulate the files using Photoshop locally on their machines. The performance will be 100 times better. (I don't think remote access to use Photoshop will work that well for you.)
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> I hope I have understood your question correctly.
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> Regards,
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> Wil McGilvery
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Hammer [mailto:Joel at HammersHome.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:39 PM
> To: linux-users at linux-sxs.org
> Subject: Windows 2000 and linux on same box concurrently
>
> I would like to get some advice about windows and linux. You can skip
> all the verbiage and go right to the BASIC QUESTION at the end.
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> We are buying digital camera equipment for our pathology lab.  I want to
> configure our cameras and computers  for maximum convenience for people
> taking the photos, people editing them, and people creating presentations
> from them.
>
> Here is what I am contemplating:
>
> Grossing room (Yes, we grossly examine the stuff,like gallbladders,
> brains, etc):
>   Digital camera tethered to a fairly simple linux computer via
> usb. Images, as soon as taken, are transferred automatically to a windows
> box in a different part of the lab (multiheaded scope room). There will
> be a twisted wire network cable directly attaching these two computers.
>
> Multiheaded scope room:
>  This contains the digital photomicroscope (Nikon DXM-1200) tethered to
> the windows box, a fancy image work station. (Pentium 4 2.2gigahertz
> and big video card).
>
> This work station will run windows and, hopfully, linux. The windows is
> for two reasons only:
>  1. To talk to the hospital wide network (we are a windows shop.)
>  2. To run the software from Nikon to capture digital images. Until I
> get my hands on the camera, I won't know if gphoto or some other linux
> software will talk to the camera.
>
> Although I have no experience with such things (windows beyond 98)
> I am thinking of installing windows 2000, since that will give that
> box server capability (I guess, including ipforwarding and such, so that
> the linux box in the grossing room can be accessed) as well as provide
> a good work station OS.
>
> Now, here is where I really need advice.
>  In my dream world, a user will be able to sit at his workstation anywhere
> in the lab, using windows, and log onto the windows 2000 workstation
> using the hospital intranet, and see and manipulate images. This might
> involve image editing (using photoshop, for example, running on the
> windows 2000 box ideally), simply viewing images, or downloading images
> while preparing presentations, say with powerpoint.
>
> It would be ideal if the user could log onto the windows 2000 box, and run a
> remote X session. That way, the user could run gimp and any linux tools I
> provide for them.
>
> So, the ideal arrangement might be for the windows box would be to run
> linux as the host OS and load and run windows 2000 under something like
> VMware.  Is this possible? If so, would windows be able to talk to the
> hardware, like usb ports or firewire ports, to enable the camera to work
> with it? What about the network connection. It would have to be controlled
> by windows 2000. If that happens, could a remote X session be possible?
>
> BASIC QUESTION:
> Well, you get the idea. The basic question is what is the best way to make
> windows 2000 and linux run on the same box, at the same time, and what
> networking and hardware functions will be missing if they do.
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
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