[OT] Hardware Info Help

[Aaron Grewell]

Both are available, but it should be noted that it's on-chip L3 cache. 
L2 is still 256K or 512K depending on what model you buy.  The L3 isn't
as fast as the L1 or L2, and is only really useful in database and other
such apps where lots of very large data transfers need to be cached.

On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 14:04, Net Llama! wrote:
> Also worth noting is that there are Xeons out there with 1MB cache (i
> think 2MB as well, but i'm not 100% sure).
> 
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Federico Voges wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > Well, Intel is doing something similar too. The new Celerons (1.7Ghz
> > and up, all socket 478) are P4 with 128kb L2 cache (as Lonni said). But
> > the max freq available now is 2.2GHz when you have a 3.06GHz P4s.
> > They'll keep the Celerons waaaay behind the P4.
> >
> > BTW, There are P4 (as well as PIIIs) with 512kb L2 cache.
> >
> > On 08 Jan 2003 13:20:32 -0800, Aaron Grewell wrote:
> >
> > >The original Celeron had no L2 cache at all.  Its performance was so
> > >abysmal that Intel had to quickly come out with the Celeron "A" which
> > >includes the 128KB L2 cache we know today.  K-6-II and III chips
> > >definitely gave better bang for the buck than the original Celerons, but
> > >the Celeron A was the last nail in K6's coffin and led to the
> > >introduction of the Duron, AMD's low-cache processor.  The Duron not
> > >only whupped up on any Celeron ever made, it ate into Athlon sales as
> > >well, which is why it is going the way of the dodo.  For this next round
> > >it looks like AMD will use 32-bit chips against Celeron and 64-bit
> > >against P4, being more careful to keep the clock speeds differentiated
> > >this time.  We'll see how well that works.
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 12:22, Stuart Biggerstaff wrote:
> > >> And at that isn't it something like double the cache of the original Celeron?
> > >>
> > >> Of course it's worth noting that whether they suck or not just about all
> > >> current processors are i686 (Pentium Pro).  I think the AMD K6 series was
> > >> the last i586 put in many PCs, and though they would often outperform the
> > >> early Celerons, they wouldn't run software compiled for i686 while the
> > >> Celerons would.
> > >>
> > >> At 03:01 PM 1/8/03 -0500, Net Llama! wrote:
> > >> >Its also worth nothing that Celerons have a 128KB cache, while the
> > >> >'normal' PIII & PIV chips have a 256KB cache.