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[David A. Bandel]

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 15:36:57 -0700
begin  "Condon Thomas A KPWA" <tcondon at kpt.nuwc.navy.mil> spewed forth:

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David A. Bandel [mailto:david at pananix.com]
> > I've been logging into UNIX boxes for over 15 years.  It's 
> > always been:
> > username<Enter>
> > password<Enter>
> 
> So, you meant the "command line" interface, instead of the "GUI"
> interface. Well of course, that is Username<enter>Password<enter>,
> but it also requires strict command line activities.  When you said it
> was a pop-up from a browser window I thought we were talking GUI.

I _am_ talking GUI.  As I said, Netscape 4.x has the correct (for me)
behavior.  Why should a form that requires two inputs submit after one? 
It requires a username then it requires a password, then, and only then,
should it submit a form. It should not submit if the active box is
username, only if the active box is password.  Again, Netscape 4.x
exhibits exactly this behavior (is there a non-GUI Netscape)?  lynx,
links, and others also do the right thing moving from line to line via
<Enter>.

> 
> > When you log into your box (VT or XDM/KDM/GDM/WDM), after you 
> > enter your
> > username do you really hit <Tab>????????????????????  And it
> > works?????????????????????
> 
> If I'm logging into the X system, which I usually am, it works just
> fine.  I wouldn't use <tab> at a command line prompt, though.  OK, I
> don't do it on purpose.  Sometimes I do it out of habit...

What works?  I've logged into systems using xdm since before 1989. 
Hitting the <Tab> key would never have occurred to me, GUI or command
line.

> 
> > Anyway, the question was, how to fix the configuration, not 
> > that I'm old
> > and futzed.
> 
> The problem is that if you use <enter> to switch from data-entry box to
> data-entry box within the form then you must use something else to
> submit the filled out form.  Programming anything other than <enter> to
> submit the form is not just counter intuitive, it is anathema.  It
> violates too many GUI conventions.

No, please try Netscape 4.x.  I just want that behavior back.  And hitting
anything but <Enter> to go between username and password, CLI or GUI is
counterintuitive to me (as many folks who hear me cussing 30 or 40 times a
day that I inadvertently do it will tell you).

> 
> Now, what we *really* need is a "Do what I mean, not what I typed" key!
> That would solve the entire problem.

No. Please retry in Netscape 4.x from a login popup: username<Enter>
password<Enter>.  Now how do I change Mozilla to do this? (Or do I live
with Nutscrape 4.x forever?)

> 
> I suspect that the next major advance in computer interfaces is going to
> be in voice recognition software that will consistently and correctly
> recognize data input verbally, complete with verbal commands to activate
> special functions.  Of course, it may not accept a pressed <enter> key,
> then.  ;-}>

No, I don't think so.  Keyboards are quiet (mine is anyway).  The only
thing I want to hear while I'm working is Pink Floyd (Comfortably Numb,
etc.)

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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