I am trying to make a grub bootcd, ths SxS example says: losetup /dev/loop1 /tmp/cdboot.288 and it comes back as no comand 'losetup', where does that come from ? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage