opera -- was: Re: downloading

[Net Llama!]

Which version of Mozilla?

I will note that there are *no* universally agreed upon standards for
javascript.  So just because some browsers support certain parts of it
better than others doesn't make them right, *regardless* of their market
share.

On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Joel Hammer wrote:
> Actually, I tried mozilla, which came with my libranet distro, also
> galeon and konqueror.  They behaved like netscape (ie. choked on some
> of the javascript) so I didn't look into the event handler situation
> with these browsers.
> Joel
>
> > On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Joel Hammer wrote:
> > > http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/
> > > Read the above link.
> > > It lists some of opera's (6.x) problems.
> > >
> > > I wrote some complicated (for me) javascript lately for processing forms.
> > >
> > > In opera, especially annoying for me was the lack of a dblclick function,
> > > the inability to capture the right mouse click, and the inability to
> > > capture screen coordinates. These are all very important when you are
> > > trying to allow the user to easily navigate around a large form. In
> > > the end, I made compromises just because opera wouldn't support event
> > > handlers properly. IE did all these things, and more, with no problem.
> > > Every single thing I tried, and it was all done straight from the "book",
> > > worked on IE.
> > >
> > > I can't talk much about netscape (6.2, 7.0) or mozilla regarding event handlers,
> > > because they just didn't work well with my javascript. They have
> > > differences from opera and IE in how they view variable scope, which I
> > > don't have the time to sort out.
> > >
> > > Perhaps someone could experiment with mozilla to see what kind of support it
> > > has for DOM and event handlers and report back to the list? Simply claiming
> > > compliance is not convincing to me.
> > >
> > > I would really appreciate it if someone could tell me why a form array,
> > > produced with HTML as follows:
> > > <form name = "myform">
> > > big form
> > > </form>
> > > is not available for initialization with the onLoad event in netscape, but
> > > is in opera and IE. (netscape eventually recognizes the form.)
> > > Any why doesn't netscape support typeof? Does mozilla?
> >
> > Why don't you install Mozilla and find out?  Your fear of Mozilla is
> > incredibly bewildering.  If you're attempting to design web
> > sites/applications for a broad audience, then you really ought to be
> > testing them against a variety of browsers.  Ignoring Mozilla on the
> > assumption that "its the same as Netscape-6/7.x" is really foolish.  The
> > reality is the opposite is far more accurate of an assumption.
> >
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