opera -- was: Re: downloading

Joel Hammer Joel
Mon May 17 11:37:34 PDT 2004


I am on the opera users list.
I like opera a lot. I even bought the non-ad version, which is much better,
since those annoying banner ads go away and you have much more screen
space.
BUT
Opera is not fully compliant with DOM W3C. Therefore, some sites, which are
compliant, don't work with opera. IIE is the most compliant browser around,
AFAIK. I think that MS is playing the game smart. They are pushing ahead and
rapidly complying with the new standards coming from the W3C people before the
others have time to do it.
But, much more commonly, sites check for IIE and netscape and adjust
accordingly. NOBODY (almost) checks for opera.
Even when you try to masquerade as mozilla, they still don't think you are
netscape. You may have to turn off reporting of javascript errors to
navigate some sites.
I do most of my browsing in opera. It is quick and clean and nice to
use. I use netscape 6.2 (just switched to 7.0, but this may not be a
step up) when opera fails, which it does quite a bit, since sites don't
check for it or allow for it. netscape 6.2 hardly ever fails. BTW,
codeweavers cross over plugin thingee doesn't appear designed for opera.
Now, don't assume all the freezes are opera's fault. You may not have the
java or the flash plugin installed properly.
And, never forget, everybody checks to see if IIE runs on their site. I
know that the various browsers have different tolerances for particular
types of errors, so, IIE may accept an error which other browsers do not.
It may be a bug in IIE but the web designers check out their work using IIE as
the checker.  So, expect frustration from time to time using opera. Despite
this, it is still my preferred browser by far.
Joel



On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 09:50:45PM -0400, dep wrote:
> begin  Susan Macchia's  quote:
> | Opera does it...I am running 6.03 and really like it.
> 
> i am, too, and do, too. but i have a question. have you encountered 
> sites that lock it up cold? i've found a few such -- i'd list 'em, 
> but it seems that what hammers it is ad servers, and particular ads. 
> this usually happens after it has been running for awhile (i 
> typically keep it running just about all the time, now that i'm 
> living largely on the web).
> -- 
> dep
> 
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