Based on Mr. Llama's recommendation on pppstatus months ago, I found a better one called ifstat from freshmeat.net. http://gael.roualland.free.fr/ifstat/ifstat-0.5.tar.gz it covers both all if (interface) including ppp and eth. -- .~. Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. In Linux we trust. / v \ /( _ )\ http://www.linux-sxs.org ^ ^ news://news.hkpcug.org