So far Gentoo doesn't look too shabby. I have finally got it to where I can start to use it:) If there is any interest, I'll post the probs with the kdelibs compile. I'll be working on it this evening and shouldn't be too difficult to track down (done enough of this, Heck I should be able) Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Gentoo 1.1a XFCE Sylpheed 0.7.6 on an M$_free_box