Fwd: a little fedora help

[Collins Richey]

This, too, should be on the list. Thanks for pointing out my error, Tim.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tim Wunder <tim at thewunders.org>
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 11:06:24 -0500
Subject: Re: a little fedora help
To: Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com>


Did you want this to not go to the list? Why?
Answers (sort of) are below...



On 12/2/2004 10:31 AM, I believe that Collins Richey wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:17:08 -0500, Tim Wunder <tim at thewunders.org> wrote:
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>>On 12/1/2004 11:06 PM, I believe that Collins Richey wrote:
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>>>On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 20:51:01 -0700, Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>rpm --import public.gpg.key
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>>Did you download and use the public gpg key from the repository you're using
>>or did you actually type "public.gpg.key?"
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> Be patient, you're dealing with an amateur now.
>

Heh, yuou shoulda seen my first reply, before I edited it...

> Entered exactly as shown and requested by the error message <g>. Dumb,
> I know, but I found nothing in the Release Notes, etc. to prepare me
> for this condition.
>
> Here are some more stupid (ignorant about Red#$@!ingHat procedures)
> questions and comments:
>
> 1. I managed to update everything yum knew about by supressing the gpg
> check - yeah, I know a security risk.
>

Yeah, but probly not as much as people would have you believe.

> 2. The GNOME desktop has a nice red circle with a ! (changes to a blue
> circle with a checkmark later) near the date that prompts you to run
> something called up2date which found 16 things to update even though I
> had run yum update to update lots of stuff. This procedure prompted to
> download some sort of a key, so maybe now the gpg stuff is cool?
>

Ick, Gnome...

> 3. What in #$@! is the difference between yum and up2date and why are
> there two sources of updates? I tried looking at the Fedora
> documentation about yum, but this hasn't been updated in a coon's age,
> i.e. my yum.conf, etc., files do not match the documentation.
>

up2date and yum are different. Not exactly sure how. But, you can configure
yum to do the same updates that up2date would. In fact, on my FC2 install,
I've disabled up2date and the little up2date panel applet altogether.
Check http://www.fedoraforum.org for a sample yum.conf file (I haven't tried
the current FC3 version, yet, just know it's there).

> 4. How does one change the hostname setup on a RedHat system? I'm
> using dhcp for eth0, and it keeps generating a hostname dhcppc3
> instead of my desired name richpc3. I can't even find a dhclient
> config file.
>

Dunno... I configured my hostname properly during install and have never had
to change it...
system-config-<something>?
Can't seem to get to my FC3 server to poke around :-(

> 5. I'm up on an ext3 system, since the Fedora installer offered no
> opportunity to format the new system as xfs. This sucks, of course.
> How do you xfs users get a Fedora xfs system? Clone to another
> partition? This sucks, too. The system does, however, have xfs
> support, and I can mount my gentoo system (xfs).
>

booting the install CD with 'linux XFS' will allow you to install an XFS
system. My lone FC3 install (which will eventually be my mail/web/proxy
server) is 100% XFS.

> 6. With those exceptions, FC3 (and even GNOME with it's lovely eye
> candy) appears to be quite usable thus far. KDE and XFCE also run as
> advertised. I'm just using GNOME since that seems to be the RH
> preference.
>

I've used GNOME for about 2 days since installing FC2 (actually, probly
since installing RHL 8.0), whenever that was released. Never did like it
much. And for all the "redhat prefers GNOME" BS you hear, I've never seen a
yum repository anywhere that'll update your version of GNOME for you. But
there is one for KDE, kde-redhat.sf.net. I used their version of KDE for
years, they're very good about publishing updates. They have a yum
repository and, IMHO, have a much better version of KDE. They'll
(kde-redhat) be releasing KDE 3.3.2 RSN(TM). I doubt the Fedora group will
be doing that (maybe if you get onto the Rawhide repository, which I
wouldn't recommend).

FYI, from a post to the kde-redhat-users list:
>>  installed FC3 , I would like to know is it now safe
>
>
> Very!  (-:
>
>> and problem prone to install kde-redhat on FC3 ?
>
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> None at all.  (-:
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>> will that add new stuff ? since FC3 comes now with kde 3.3.1
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> Lots.  I suppose I should start officially documenting all the new goodies.  Off the top of my head:
> * full multimedia support (ie, mp3, xine_artsplugin)
> * re-added all redhat-removed stuff: from kdeadmin: kpackage, klilo; kdegames: ktron, kbattleship;
> * kdepim: integrated crypto support (via gpgme and friends)



-- 
 Collins