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I would add that John is a character and the videos are very
entertaining as well as informative.<br>
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Nancy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/8/2021 12:00 PM, Boaz Bezborodko
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cite="mid:f6521b73-8436-c56e-471e-2253610764cd@bronxriverbottling.com">Jeff,
<br>
<br>
John Esak put together a very nice set of videos that teach FP
from beginning to advanced that are also decently indexed.
<br>
I think they were ~$600 or $700, but I don't know if he still has
them available. I have a copy on my hard drive, but don't know if
I'm allowed to transfer them.
<br>
If anyone can suggest the best way to ethically make them
available them I'm all ears. (One option: I could burn them onto
DVD and delete my copies.)
<br>
<br>
I no longer use Filepro except to access certain historical data.
I'm now with a different company and we don't use it anymore.
<br>
<br>
Boaz
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:23:29 -0400
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Jeff,
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Starting from the beginning is not such a bad thing. Once you
understand how filePro works, it makes it easier to diagnose
issues. Kwwp in mind that many functions are hidden from an FP
programmer. To make it faster to write code. As the underlying
programming expands so does the functionality of filePro.
<br>
<br>
I have been programming with filePro for over 30 years.through
versions 3 to the current version. As this is art & science
no two programmers will write the same code to solve a problem.
Supplying the ?source? code with the runtimes insures the
developer of having the version that the client is using I
have done this many times to insure any modifications done for
the client is on-site. I do have copies of most of me client?s
programs on my server. This makes it easy for me to restore
their programming in the event of a disaster. Many don?t do
backups or test them to insure that the backup actually works. I
have one client who copies the backup to another computer in
case his primary server goes down. The backup server is
off-site.
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Richard Kreiss
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<blockquote type="cite">On Jun 7, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Jeff Bandle
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wrote:
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?Hi All -
<br>
<br>
Long time lurker on this list but I'm compelled to ask for
some advice.
<br>
A few weeks ago Nancy posted a notice that a long time FilePro
programmer,
<br>
George Simon had unexpectedly passed away. I knew George from
working with
<br>
him the last 10 years, assisting him on the FlowerSoft Silver
application
<br>
used by quite a few independent flower shops throughout the
US. I didn't do
<br>
any FilePro development but helped by providing standalone
applications
<br>
George called to handle things such as decrypting wire orders
and processing
<br>
credit card transactions.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
George's sudden passing has left these shops in an
unsupported situation
<br>
and I've agreed to see if I can take this on in a very limited
manner to at
<br>
least buy time for these shops to move onto another solution.
I've been
<br>
working with Nancy and the fptech folks and have gotten a 6.0
license for
<br>
the newest FilePro development environment. In researching
the installed
<br>
FlowerSoft software at several difference locations, it looks
like George
<br>
included the source code with the executable bits.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to
proceed with ramping
<br>
up on FilePro so I can at least try to diagnose issues if they
were
<br>
reported. George and I had talked about me helping him and he
was going to
<br>
provide guidance but sadly that never happened before his
passing. A
<br>
complicating factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess
there are
<br>
potential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have
to watch out
<br>
for.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I apologize up front if this is too vague. I've programmed
in C, C++ and
<br>
C# along with MySQL and MS SQL, so I have a fair amount of
programming
<br>
experience. I've looked at the training materials available
on the fptech
<br>
site but what I've seen seems to be geared for starting from
scratch, not
<br>
how to support an existing project.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance for any tips. I would like to have a setup
where I make
<br>
changes on my local development machine and then role those
changes to the
<br>
customer system, but maybe that isn't a good way to do it.
Any thoughts on
<br>
a recommendation for setting up a support "lab" would be very
helpful.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Jeff Bandle
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<br>
What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to proceed
with ramping
<br>
up on FilePro so I can at least try to diagnose issues if they
were
<br>
reported. George and I had talked about me helping him and he
was going to
<br>
provide guidance but sadly that never happened before his
passing. A
<br>
complicating factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess
there are
<br>
potential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have to
watch out
<br>
for.
<br>
<br>
Jeff Bandle
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<br>
This list is probably your most valuable ally. I'm sure
we would all
<br>
be willing to help out if you run into a filePro problem you
can't figure
<br>
out. If it turns into a big problem, several of us are
independent
<br>
programmers who can be hired to help you fix it.
<br>
<br>
I also do filePro training classes. I'm doing most of the
training
<br>
virtually now, so can include you in one of my sessions.
<br>
<br>
Or, if you let me know where you live, I can probably get
you in on one
<br>
of my on-site training classes. (The classes are usually at one
individual
<br>
company, but some of them have allowed me to invite "strangers"
in.
<br>
Depending on the Covid situation, I may be doing training in
Phoenix, AZ and
<br>
Courtland, NY this year.)
<br>
<br>
You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's
filePro
<br>
Developers Reference. (I just tried to bring up the STN.com web
site, but
<br>
was unable to. I hope STN is not out of business...)
<br>
<br>
George's library may already have a copy of the reference,
even if it
<br>
is an older edition. (The last edition only covered version 5
of filePro.)
<br>
<br>
I've acquired a couple of the older filePro printed
manuals. They only
<br>
cover filePro through version 4.1, but I still find the
programming info and
<br>
examples invaluable. Again, George's library may have a copy.
<br>
<br>
I might be persuaded to send you one of my copies of the
filePro manual
<br>
if you can't find one elsewhere.
<br>
<br>
You might want to look for issues of the old newsletters
that John Esak
<br>
put out. I have some of these newsletters, but I am in the
process of
<br>
moving and they are packed in boxes in my storage unit right
now.
<br>
<br>
I sure wish I could get a complete set of the old Esak
newsletters. I
<br>
would love to have a complete set. If anybody has a set and if
John Esak
<br>
would give permission to scan them in, I would pay the neighbor
kid to scan
<br>
them in and create PDF's for me...
<br>
<br>
You can also contact Laura Brody to see if she still has
the old
<br>
"filePro Goddess" journals. There were only a few of those, but
they had a
<br>
lot of good filePro tips and tricks in them.
<br>
<br>
Hope that helps!
<br>
<br>
Mike Schwartz
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 14:46:34 +0000
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From: Walter Vaughan Jr <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wvaughan@steelerubber.com"><wvaughan@steelerubber.com></a>
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Subject: RE: Newbie advice
<br>
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[snip]
<br>
<br>
<br>
You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart Werner's
filePro Developers Reference. (I just tried to bring up the
STN.com web site, but was unable to. I hope STN is not out of
business...)
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/palmbeachpost/obituary.aspx?n=stuart-l-werner&pid=196841242">https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/palmbeachpost/obituary.aspx?n=stuart-l-werner&pid=196841242</a>
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Message: 4
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:43:33 -0400
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From: "laura.k.brody" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:laura.k.brody@gmail.com"><laura.k.brody@gmail.com></a>
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To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mschw@athenet.net">mschw@athenet.net</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:filepro-list@lists.celestial.com">filepro-list@lists.celestial.com</a>
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Subject: RE: Newbie advice
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Message-ID: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:60bf9027.1c69fb81.56cd4.d309@mx.google.com"><60bf9027.1c69fb81.56cd4.d309@mx.google.com></a>
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Don't use 6.0 features. Other than that, you should have
compatible code.Laura Brody?Sent from my Galaxy
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[snip] ? What I'm asking is advice/guidance on the best way to
proceed with rampingup on FilePro so I can at least try to
diagnose issues if they werereported.? George and I had talked
about me helping him and he was going toprovide guidance but
sadly that never happened before his passing.? Acomplicating
factor is George was on FilePro 5.0 and I guess there
arepotential conflicts if I use the 6.0 version that I will have
to watch outfor.Jeff Bandle-----
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This list is probably your most valuable ally.? I'm sure we
would allbe willing to help out if you run into a filePro
problem you can't figureout.? If it turns into a big problem,
several of us are independentprogrammers who can be hired to
help you
<br>
fix it.? ??? I also do filePro training classes.? I'm doing
most of the trainingvirtually now, so can include you in one of
my sessions.? ???? Or, if you let me know where you live, I can
probably get you in on oneof my on-site training classes.? (The
classes are usually at one individualcompany, but some of them
have allowed me to invite "strangers" in.Depending on the Covid
situation, I may be doing training in Phoenix, AZ andCourtland,
NY this year.)???? You might want to try to buy a copy of Stuart
Werner's fileProDevelopers Reference.? (I just tried to bring up
the STN.com web site, butwas unable to.? I hope STN is not out
of business...)? ???? George's library may already have a copy
of the reference, even if itis an older edition.? (The last
edition only covered version 5 of filePro.)???? I've acquired a
couple of the older filePro printed manuals.? They onlycover
filePro through version 4.1, but I still find the programming
info andexamples invaluable.? Again, George's libr
<br>
ary may have a copy.? ???? I might be persuaded to send you
one of my copies of the filePro manualif you can't find one
elsewhere.???? You might want to look for issues of the old
newsletters that John Esakput out.? I have some of these
newsletters, but I am in the process ofmoving and they are
packed in boxes in my storage unit right now.? ???? I sure wish
I could get a complete set of the old Esak newsletters.? Iwould
love to have a complete set.? If anybody has a set and if John
Esakwould give permission to scan them in, I would pay the
neighbor kid to scanthem in and create PDF's for me...? ???? You
can also contact Laura Brody to see if she still has the
old"filePro Goddess" journals.? There were only a few of those,
but they had alot of good filePro tips and tricks in them.Hope
that helps!Mike Schwartz???? ?????????
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