<div dir="ltr"><div>It would seem that fairlight is very apprehensive about showing any of his filePro (not in the cards) or Perl code examples......mmmmm I am reminded of sitting in a poker game....."Put up or shut up" </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks Richard W for all your help and great samples, Jose L thank you for that great example of PHP to filePro. </div><div><br></div><div>I know that nothing will shut him up as he has self-qualified himself to spew his opinion on everything in the industry. </div><div><br></div><div>Wayne Smith</div><div>Port Orange, Florida </div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Fairlight via Filepro-list</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:filepro-list@lists.celestial.com">filepro-list@lists.celestial.com</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 1:59 AM<br>Subject: Re: PHP and filepro - login lesson<br>To: <a href="mailto:filepro-list@lists.celestial.com">filepro-list@lists.celestial.com</a><br><br><br>My Perl code is commercial. I'd love to show you the source code to<br>
OneGate or xml2csv. That'll be $995 (each), please.<br>
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 10:40:20PM -0500, Richard D. Williams via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
> Wow! Who would of thought that sharing would be a "blood sport".<br>
> BTW. I never implied, in anyway, that PHP is the only way to go.<br>
> <br>
> Would someone like top post a similar example in Perl?<br>
> <br>
> This list should be about sharing knowledge, not opinions.<br>
> If Perl is so great with Filepro, show me.<br>
> <br>
> Richard<br>
> <br>
> On 4/12/2018 6:27 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:<br>
> >On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 06:00:32PM -0400, Jose Lerebours via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
> >>If I did not know better I would think you just called two of us<br>
> >>"idiots" ...<br>
> >No. I'm saying that the language's user pool is populated with far too<br>
> >many of them, though. I'm sure there were 15-25 smart AOL users scattered<br>
> >to the far corners of the globe, as well. That doesn't really redeem the<br>
> >platform.<br>
> ><br>
> >>Not exactly lack of consistency in the writing of code but rather<br>
> >>evolving methods/classes or simply experimenting with UI/UX - Say<br>
> >>jQuery or NodeJS or Angular JS or pure JS ... bootstrap or good old<br>
> >>CSS/CSS3 ... I constantly ask "what if" when writing code and enjoy<br>
> >>the chase.<br>
> >To an extent, that works. There's definitely a pair of large seats at the<br>
> >head of the table for stability and known quantities, though.<br>
> ><br>
> >>All that said, I am sure that all of these flaws can be accredited<br>
> >>to WordPress, Zend 2, CakePHP etc. In other words, the so called<br>
> >>"frameworks" that are just out of control and some poorly<br>
> >>implemented.<br>
> >Nope. I mean, WP has had its share of issues (besides being a -horribly-<br>
> >dog-slow design which will only barely function without a massive amount of<br>
> >caching, which in my opinion defeats half the purpose of dynamic content in<br>
> >the first place). There were just -so- many shopping carts, community<br>
> >forums, control panels, etc., which were written by someone out there who<br>
> >obviously didn't even bother picking up a leaflet relating to security.<br>
> ><br>
> >There are decent modules written for WP and Joomla, but they're only as<br>
> >good as the parent product allows them to be.<br>
> ><br>
> >WP really wants a complete redesign from the ground up, preferably in<br>
> >another language. It's only gotten worse over the years.<br>
> ><br>
> >>No programming/scripting language is without flaws, some more than<br>
> >>others. PHP may rank worst than Perl in many areas but that is the<br>
> >>price it paid for growing so fast and so openly (too many hands in<br>
> >>the pot).<br>
> >Perl's main flaws are an OO layer which is, well...unconventional. It's<br>
> >OO in presentation, but from what I gather it's a bit of a hack job under<br>
> >the hood. That said, it -works-, and the -only- time I've ever seen Perl<br>
> >crash was due to a Red Hat patch they rolled themselves. And you know it's<br>
> >bad when someone screws up either int(), sort(), or return(). I'm guessing<br>
> >it was somewhere in sort(), but could never narrow it down further than<br>
> >the three. They never fixed it. It suffered that to the EOL date of the<br>
> >OS. I rolled parallel installs of the same exact official Perl version,<br>
> >compiled by me, on the same OS, and my binaries were fine.<br>
> ><br>
> >>I still love PHP and I know can pickup Perl and write code in Perl<br>
> >>with the same ease I do PHP or filePro, I mean, it is not like Perl<br>
> >>is for Geniuses only. ;-) Is it?<br>
> >Depends how far you take it. I have seen some really whacked one-liners.<br>
> >I'm not talking just writing a script in a single line. I'm talking<br>
> >writing what seems to be modem line noise which actually does something<br>
> >functionally useful.<br>
> ><br>
> >I'm not personally fond of abusing a language that badly. It's funny,<br>
> >because when I was a kid, I couldn't be bribed to comment my code, no<br>
> >matter how obscure. It was actually a point of pride with me that I didn't<br>
> >need to. Nowadays, I can't live without comments.<br>
> ><br>
> >The code should mostly document itself, but should also have clear comments<br>
> >for key points and tricky bits, and even just for flow in some cases.<br>
> >Otherwise, you go away for six months or six years, need to come back to<br>
> >it when someone wants a change, and you have no clue where to even start<br>
> >without doing three days' worth of analysis. Nobody can memorise more than<br>
> >a certain percentage of a bunch of different codebases.<br>
> ><br>
> >m-><br>
> <br>
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