<div dir="ltr">I used to use Acronis as a plugin to BartPE back in the windows XP days to image desktops. But like others I use Macrium for that now.<div><br></div><div>For servers we have Hyper-V servers and we use Altaro to backup to DAS arrays. We also do offsite backups over the internet.</div><div><br></div><div>What is nice about Altaro is they do what is called a Reverse Delta backup which is like an incremental backup but can restore an entire virtual machine from each backup that you do. So even though you are only backing up data that changed, that date and time you did the backup, you can restore it like a full backup. On top of this Altaro supports compression encryption and data deduplication which cuts down even more on the data being backed up. If you need to just restore some files, you can mount an backup from any point in time, browse through and pull whatever you need. It does all of this for around 700 bucks for an unlimited VM license...1 license per physical hypervisor server. If you have 5 vms or less on a server they have a standard licence that is 500 bucks.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have more than one hypervisor server in a cluster, you can set it up to manage all the backup operations from a single place. Their UI is SUPER simple. I think it took me about 20 minutes to install configure and get a successful backup going the first time. You can do cloud backups and if you want to pay a little more, you can manage your backups from a cloud account. Altaro = Lazy. It also works for VMWare.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 5:29 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:filepro-list-request@lists.celestial.com" target="_blank">filepro-list-request@lists.celestial.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Filepro-list mailing list submissions to<br>
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Just want to pole "the List" as to what backup software you would recommend for w Windows Server?<br>
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I use Macruim Reflect 7.1 Never had any problems backing up or restoring with it.<br>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:15:12 -0500<br>
From: Fairlight <<a href="mailto:fairlite@fairlite.com">fairlite@fairlite.com</a>><br>
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Macrium Reflect.<br>
<br>
A while back, I was using Acronis TrueImage. It's a PoS which never had<br>
working WinPE media (crashed at boot), didn't include your drivers (like<br>
custom SATA drivers), and they dumbed down the UI so badly that it was next<br>
to useless.<br>
<br>
When I needed to switch software, I tried pretty much every solution out<br>
there, free and commercial, which seemed promising at all.<br>
<br>
In the end, Macrium Reflect was the best engineered, the most stable, and<br>
the most versatile. It's got a -slight- learning curve, but it's -well-<br>
worth the power, and you can ignore a lot you don't need (like PowerShell<br>
extensions). It has a -working- WinPE (actually three, since you get to<br>
choose which version of PE you use) which actually drags in all your<br>
drivers (including wireless, although WinPE itself can't use wireless at<br>
all), which I've verified will see my network storage. And...AND...it<br>
actually gives you accurate estimates of operations at the -start- of the<br>
backup process. It also has forever incrementals, and you can mount any<br>
partition in realtime to grab files off of it as you would with tape, if<br>
you need to...from -any- of the incrementals!<br>
<br>
To contrast, Acronis would take a third of a day to even give me a first<br>
estimate of the backup duration. Then, when you'd close the window, you'd<br>
have to wait a third of a day again to get the estimate back (it'd be blank<br>
again). THAT is how poorly Acronis is written (as were many of the<br>
alternatives I demoed). Reflect analyses your disks up-front, and you have<br>
an accurate ETA at every step of the way thereafter, which is basically<br>
under a minute in on my system. It literally knows the second it's scanned<br>
the disk partition tables and filesystem maps, and the count has never<br>
jumped around on me.<br>
<br>
Oh...and unlike some other solutions which -claim- to use ShadowCopy,<br>
Reflect's actually -works-. (I remember one solution which claimed to use<br>
it, but which would never back up system files on a live system.)<br>
<br>
Macrium Reflect or bust. And it's only $75 for the Workstation version.<br>
If you get the annual support (a whopping $5 extra...or was it $4?), and<br>
they release a new major version, you actually get that version. I got<br>
from v6 to v7 by virtue of having that extremely inexpensive support.<br>
<br>
I won't recommend another product for Windows backups.<br>
<br>
Go Macrium, or go home.<br>
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mark-><br>
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On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 07:15:33PM +0000, Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
> Just want to pole "the List" as to what backup software you would recommend for w Windows Server?<br>
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> GCC Consulting<br>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:27:19 -0500<br>
From: Fairlight <<a href="mailto:fairlite@fairlite.com">fairlite@fairlite.com</a>><br>
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I forgot to mention that Reflect is substantially faster than Acronis, even<br>
when it has to shuffle and consolidate the incrementals.<br>
<br>
m-><br>
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On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 03:15:12PM -0500, Fairlight via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
> Macrium Reflect.<br>
><br>
> A while back, I was using Acronis TrueImage. It's a PoS which never had<br>
> working WinPE media (crashed at boot), didn't include your drivers (like<br>
> custom SATA drivers), and they dumbed down the UI so badly that it was next<br>
> to useless.<br>
><br>
> When I needed to switch software, I tried pretty much every solution out<br>
> there, free and commercial, which seemed promising at all.<br>
><br>
> In the end, Macrium Reflect was the best engineered, the most stable, and<br>
> the most versatile. It's got a -slight- learning curve, but it's -well-<br>
> worth the power, and you can ignore a lot you don't need (like PowerShell<br>
> extensions). It has a -working- WinPE (actually three, since you get to<br>
> choose which version of PE you use) which actually drags in all your<br>
> drivers (including wireless, although WinPE itself can't use wireless at<br>
> all), which I've verified will see my network storage. And...AND...it<br>
> actually gives you accurate estimates of operations at the -start- of the<br>
> backup process. It also has forever incrementals, and you can mount any<br>
> partition in realtime to grab files off of it as you would with tape, if<br>
> you need to...from -any- of the incrementals!<br>
><br>
> To contrast, Acronis would take a third of a day to even give me a first<br>
> estimate of the backup duration. Then, when you'd close the window, you'd<br>
> have to wait a third of a day again to get the estimate back (it'd be blank<br>
> again). THAT is how poorly Acronis is written (as were many of the<br>
> alternatives I demoed). Reflect analyses your disks up-front, and you have<br>
> an accurate ETA at every step of the way thereafter, which is basically<br>
> under a minute in on my system. It literally knows the second it's scanned<br>
> the disk partition tables and filesystem maps, and the count has never<br>
> jumped around on me.<br>
><br>
> Oh...and unlike some other solutions which -claim- to use ShadowCopy,<br>
> Reflect's actually -works-. (I remember one solution which claimed to use<br>
> it, but which would never back up system files on a live system.)<br>
><br>
> Macrium Reflect or bust. And it's only $75 for the Workstation version.<br>
> If you get the annual support (a whopping $5 extra...or was it $4?), and<br>
> they release a new major version, you actually get that version. I got<br>
> from v6 to v7 by virtue of having that extremely inexpensive support.<br>
><br>
> I won't recommend another product for Windows backups.<br>
><br>
> Go Macrium, or go home.<br>
><br>
> mark-><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 07:15:33PM +0000, Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
> > Just want to pole "the List" as to what backup software you would recommend for w Windows Server?<br>
> ><br>
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On 01/10/2018 03:27 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:<br>
> I forgot to mention that Reflect is substantially faster than Acronis, even<br>
> when it has to shuffle and consolidate the incrementals.<br>
><br>
> m-><br>
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> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 03:15:12PM -0500, Fairlight via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
>> Macrium Reflect.<br>
>><br>
>> A while back, I was using Acronis TrueImage. It's a PoS which never had<br>
>> working WinPE media (crashed at boot), didn't include your drivers (like<br>
>> custom SATA drivers), and they dumbed down the UI so badly that it was next<br>
>> to useless.<br>
>><br>
>> When I needed to switch software, I tried pretty much every solution out<br>
>> there, free and commercial, which seemed promising at all.<br>
>><br>
>> In the end, Macrium Reflect was the best engineered, the most stable, and<br>
>> the most versatile. It's got a -slight- learning curve, but it's -well-<br>
>> worth the power, and you can ignore a lot you don't need (like PowerShell<br>
>> extensions). It has a -working- WinPE (actually three, since you get to<br>
>> choose which version of PE you use) which actually drags in all your<br>
>> drivers (including wireless, although WinPE itself can't use wireless at<br>
>> all), which I've verified will see my network storage. And...AND...it<br>
>> actually gives you accurate estimates of operations at the -start- of the<br>
>> backup process. It also has forever incrementals, and you can mount any<br>
>> partition in realtime to grab files off of it as you would with tape, if<br>
>> you need to...from -any- of the incrementals!<br>
>><br>
>> To contrast, Acronis would take a third of a day to even give me a first<br>
>> estimate of the backup duration. Then, when you'd close the window, you'd<br>
>> have to wait a third of a day again to get the estimate back (it'd be blank<br>
>> again). THAT is how poorly Acronis is written (as were many of the<br>
>> alternatives I demoed). Reflect analyses your disks up-front, and you have<br>
>> an accurate ETA at every step of the way thereafter, which is basically<br>
>> under a minute in on my system. It literally knows the second it's scanned<br>
>> the disk partition tables and filesystem maps, and the count has never<br>
>> jumped around on me.<br>
>><br>
>> Oh...and unlike some other solutions which -claim- to use ShadowCopy,<br>
>> Reflect's actually -works-. (I remember one solution which claimed to use<br>
>> it, but which would never back up system files on a live system.)<br>
>><br>
>> Macrium Reflect or bust. And it's only $75 for the Workstation version.<br>
>> If you get the annual support (a whopping $5 extra...or was it $4?), and<br>
>> they release a new major version, you actually get that version. I got<br>
>> from v6 to v7 by virtue of having that extremely inexpensive support.<br>
>><br>
>> I won't recommend another product for Windows backups.<br>
>><br>
>> Go Macrium, or go home.<br>
>><br>
>> mark-><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 07:15:33PM +0000, Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
>>> Just want to pole "the List" as to what backup software you would recommend for w Windows Server?<br>
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>>> Richard Kreiss<br>
>>> GCC Consulting<br>
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