<div dir="ltr">I give this a TEN </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Mike Fedkiw via Filepro-list <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:filepro-list@lists.celestial.com" target="_blank">filepro-list@lists.celestial.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Regardless of the help I may need you are the last person that I would ever consider paying to help me with your demeanor. In my previous statement I was only giving an example of what a normal(NOT YOU) person might have done, that's all.<br>
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Why is this seeming familiar, could that be because I'm now remembering some back and fourth between you and myself similar to this a while back, yea...<br>
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I've never had an issue with anyone on this list other than you Mark, imagine that. I'm always courteous and try to let everyone know that I'm appreciative of whatever help I was able to get here. NEVER have I dealt with crap like I'm see coming from you so I suppose that makes you stand out if that's what you're looking for.<br>
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You are such an A$$ Mark, but have a nice day anyway.<br>
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Mike<br>
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On 8/26/2017 7:45 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:<br>
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That's your second mistake with me in one day. You're not really quick on<br>
the uptake, are you?<br>
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FOR THE SECOND TIME: You have zero say in what I offer or do not offer you<br>
on this list. I don't really give a damn what you feel would have been<br>
nice. You're not paying me to be nice. You're not paying me for anything.<br>
If I'm on the clock with a paying customer, offlist, I'll be as nice to the<br>
person paying me as you could ask. If I'm not being paid, and I'm simply<br>
offering help in a public venue, for free, you get whatever I feel like<br>
at that moment. You're not entitled to make demands of any sort unless<br>
there's a formal arrangement which specifies that you do. I'm not sure<br>
where people get this entitled attitude from, but it doesn't fly with me.<br>
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If I were interested in taking you on, I'd have responded offlist, as I've<br>
done with others. I specifically -don't- want to take you on, as you sound<br>
like a tremendously bad ROI time-sink, based on your messages here. I've<br>
lost track of how many people have been helping you, and you're still at<br>
it, with no end in sight. No thanks. Pass. I tried to help you within<br>
reasonable constraints and boundaries, but you don't even respect that.<br>
Again, pass.<br>
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mark-><br>
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On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 07:12:45PM -0400, Mike Fedkiw thus spoke:<br>
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I certainly understand that this help forum is a free place to gain<br>
a bit of help at times but if you read my posts I also indicated<br>
that I would much rather be paying someone to help me out instead of<br>
spending hours of time that I really don't have either trying to<br>
figure this out on my own.<br>
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What might have been nice is a reply like this to my initial post...<br>
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"Mike, if you're interested in getting this done fairly quickly, I<br>
can certainly help you out. Send an email to (________@<a href="http://fairlite.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">fairlite.com</a>)<br>
with an outline of exactly what you're needing and I'll reply with<br>
my rates and an estimated time frame for your project.<br>
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m"<br>
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Instead of replying the way you did if you didn't want to give any<br>
further information, you could have simply not replied.<br>
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Mike<br>
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On 8/26/2017 2:52 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:<br>
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Also, my keyboard is acting up again and dropping letters. I should<br>
probably replace it with the spare I bought a year ago for this<br>
eventuality. However, it's the weekend, and I can't be arsed.<br>
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Apologies for the typos. I was too pissed off to proofread more<br>
thoroughly.<br>
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m-><br>
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On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 02:47:54PM -0400, Fairlight via Filepro-list thus spoke:<br>
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On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 02:36:05PM -0400, Mike Fedkiw thus spoke:<br>
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I appreciate all the help I've been able to get from people replying to<br>
my posts on here. Please understand though, I only write a few things<br>
in filepro for my own company. So making statements like this<br>
Just pretend I never said anything which might actually help you, that all<br>
you will ever have or use are tools to which you've already been exposed,<br>
and that you don't need to do any research of moderate depth on your own in<br>
order to solve -your- problems.<br>
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I don't think is very fair and certainly not helpful in any way. If I<br>
have no clue what all this Linux, perl, tr, sed, \001, \007 are why not<br>
try and help me out, I thought that was what this was for???<br>
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I -did- try to help you out. It was apparently beyond your understanding.<br>
Going further than that exceeds the scope of what I'm willing to do gratis<br>
on this list. I'm available for contract at my normal hourly rates, if you<br>
really want/need an in-depth explanation from the ground up.<br>
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That's one of the things that really pisses me off about certain<br>
communities. "Oh, my tools let me do -wonders- without having to really<br>
understand anything about what I'm doing, the principles involved, or the<br>
systems upon which I run!" So they're suddenly God, because they can<br>
'program' without any formal education. Then they hit a stumbling block,<br>
and expect the answer to be delivered in full, pressed, starched, polished,<br>
and spit-shined, on a silver platter, gratis.<br>
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NO.<br>
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Some of us have spent decades building our knowledge base, doing our own<br>
researh, etc. Nobody is -entitled- to our knowledge or our work for free.<br>
If we choose to give it, that's our choice. The extent to which we are<br>
willing to give it in a venue like this is -our- choce. People are -not-<br>
at liberty to dictate the terms of our benevolence unless they're handing<br>
us a paycheque, thank you very much.<br>
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You probably shouldn't have crossed the line into 'hinting' that I should<br>
be -more- helpful, when I was already concisely helpful in the first place.<br>
You don't have that right unless it's your time, on your dime. It's my<br>
frakking -weekend-, and I tried to help you anyway. Then you want to bitch<br>
because you don't understand what I said, and take exception to me saying,<br>
"Y'know what? More trouble than it's worth during my free time, just<br>
forget it." No good deed goes unpunished, lemme tellya.<br>
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This is why we can't have nice things.<br>
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/rant<br>
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mark-><br>
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