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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>> Bud, I have taken down the page and information off of my website. I will</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> keep it to myself as I have for the last 2 years since I needed to remove the</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> passwords off my own code.</p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Best Regards,</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Dave</p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'>----- ----- -----------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> Passwords are becoming more of an issue for me every year, due to programmers leaving their jobs, retiring, and, yes, dying suddenly. (Sorry to inform some of the people on this list that they ARE mortal. Except for whoever it was whose customers wanted to have a laptop and phone line installed in his coffin...)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> I'm currently faced with several customers with passworded, tokenized code that nobody knows the passwords to. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> Up until a couple of months ago, I knew fpTech could remove passwords on the maps, but I was surprised to find out that they could remove the passwords on tokenized tables. I wish I had known that a few years ago... <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> As far as the code that I've written, I've tried to be careful to leave all the passwords in safe places for all my customers in case anything ever happens to me. However, my customers have very bad habits when it comes to keeping stuff like that. Last fall at one of my customers in Northern Wisconsin, an over-zealous new bookkeeper decided to clean the offices while the owner was in Chicago. She threw away anything that "looked old", which included all the filepro manuals and my documentation going back to 1983, INCLUDING the sheets of passwords. Now I can't even get into some of my old code. Thankfully, I had ABE=Ascii turned on for most of the code, so it is relatively easy to strip off the passwords.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> I had one customer in Boston who gave up on filePro because I told them that without the passwords, I couldn't make the changes in their code that they needed. (Yes, they definitely did own all their code. It was completely legal.) The filePro community certainly doesn't need to needlessly lose customers because of lost passwords. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> One customer in Cincinnati was VERY pleased a couple of months ago when I told them that passwords COULD be removed, because they want to upgrade their filePro and move off of SCO to Linux. They were unable to do this because their passworded filepro code has a lot of routines that control their printers and do other functions, so the code only works on older versions of SCO Openserver.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> It is a tedious, costly process to zip up the files and send them all to fPtech to have passwords removed, so I am going to test the method you suggested in your PDF.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> I agree that knowledge like this should be "closely held" and every attempt should be made to make sure it only falls into the hands of those who legitimately have a need to know. However, the flip-side of the coin is that companies don't have a right to block you from enjoying the media (or programming) that you have paid for. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'> NOW: Does anybody know how to remove the passwords off of some really old PKzip files??? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'>Mike Schwartz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>