<html><head><style type="text/css">body {word-wrap: break-word; background-color:#ffffff;}</style></head><body><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px">Top post<br><br>As mentioned previously, RAM can be a serious issue here.<br><br>But so can permissions, especially on the folders containing the data files! Set incorrectly you can run into slowness issues with multiple users.<br><br>What is the drive and path for /appl/fp ans /appl/filepro ? <br><br>Steve Parker<br>ABC Computing<br><br><br><font color="#333333"><i><span style="font-size: 14px"><font face="sans-serif">Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless</font></span></i></font></div><br><br>-----Original message-----<br><blockquote style="; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px"><b>From: </b>filepro-list-request@lists.celestial.com<b><br>To: </b>filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<b><br>Sent: </b>Fri, Jul 15, 2011 17:11:15 GMT+00:00<b><br>Subject: </b>Filepro-list Digest, Vol 90, Issue 18<br><br></div>Send Filepro-list mailing list submissions to<br> filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> filepro-list-request@lists.celestial.com<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> filepro-list-owner@lists.celestial.com<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Filepro-list digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)<br> 2. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)<br> 3. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)<br> 4. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Richard Kreiss)<br> 5. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Walter Vaughan)<br> 6. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Kenneth Brody)<br> 7. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Chris Sellitto)<br> 8. Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Richard Kreiss)<br> 9. RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro (Ryan Powers)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:45:36 -0400<br>From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx@indy.rr.com><br>Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: "'Kenneth Brody'" <kenbrody@spamcop.net><br>Cc: filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br>Message-ID: <002801cc42e4$b6be6710$243b3530$@rr.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Kenneth Brody <br><br>> What makes him think that filePro is 16-bit? It's a full-fledged 32-bit<br>> Windows console application.<br><br>He was convinced it's a dinosaur. I don't know where the 16-bit came from,<br>short filenames? There was also mention of a "switch". I'm having them<br>confirm that they meant "router". If they're using a switch, that might<br>explain it.<br><br>> I don't think we still had a DOS version by 5.0. What is the exact<br>> version<br>> number of dclerk? In particular, does it end in "D3" or "D9"? ("D3"<br>> would<br>> mean it's a 32-bit protected-mode MS-DOS program, whereas "D9" is the<br>> Windows version.)<br><br>5.0.09DN9<br><br>So it's Windows native then. <br><br>Thanks for your feedback, and to everyone else for your input. The fact that<br>so many are not having this issue is enlightening.<br><br><br>---<br>Ryan Powers<br>Bulldog Software, Inc.<br><a href="http://www.bulldogsoftware.com">http://www.bulldogsoftware.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:51:27 -0400<br>From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx@indy.rr.com><br>Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: "'Kenneth Brody'" <kenbrody@spamcop.net><br>Cc: filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br>Message-ID: <002901cc42e5$87afc850$970f58f0$@rr.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>p.s.<br><br>I'll let you know how it turns out. <br><br><br>---<br>Ryan Powers<br>Bulldog Software, Inc.<br><a href="http://www.bulldogsoftware.com">http://www.bulldogsoftware.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:29:58 -0400<br>From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx@indy.rr.com><br>Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: "'Kenneth Brody'" <kenbrody@spamcop.net><br>Cc: filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br>Message-ID: <003401cc42f3$4b517ee0$e1f47ca0$@rr.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>A little more info:<br><br>Client has eliminated AV as an issue. All indexes had been rebuilt. All of<br>the usual post-migration steps were taken. All of the usual trouble-shooting<br>was done (25 years experience). A router is being used not a switch.<br><br>He has several customers running this multi-user configuration on Windows 7<br>and SBS with no issues, many with 5 users full-time.<br><br>rreport will take 51 seconds to count down 100 records. With 2 users it<br>takes 10 minutes.<br><br>Does anyone use Windows 2008R2 specifically?<br><br><br><br>---<br>Ryan Powers<br>Bulldog Software, Inc.<br><a href="http://www.bulldogsoftware.com">http://www.bulldogsoftware.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:51:22 -0400<br>From: Richard Kreiss <rkreiss@verizon.net><br>Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: Ryan Powers <ryanx@indy.rr.com><br>Cc: "filepro-list@lists.celestial.com"<br> <filepro-list@lists.celestial.com>, Kenneth Brody<br> <kenbrody@spamcop.net><br>Message-ID: <0F790EE8-18AD-4BC3-B8D6-10364E000D14@verizon.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>Top post<br><br>I have a client running win server 2008 with 25 plus users with no performance problems. <br><br>What are the specs for the server? Windows server OS's are memory hogs and any minimum memory suggestion from Ms is inadequate.<br><br>Richard<br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On Jul 15, 2011, at 9:29 AM, "Ryan Powers" <ryanx@indy.rr.com> wrote:<br><br>> A little more info:<br>> <br>> Client has eliminated AV as an issue. All indexes had been rebuilt. All of<br>> the usual post-migration steps were taken. All of the usual trouble-shooting<br>> was done (25 years experience). A router is being used not a switch.<br>> <br>> He has several customers running this multi-user configuration on Windows 7<br>> and SBS with no issues, many with 5 users full-time.<br>> <br>> rreport will take 51 seconds to count down 100 records. With 2 users it<br>> takes 10 minutes.<br>> <br>> Does anyone use Windows 2008R2 specifically?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ---<br>> Ryan Powers<br>> Bulldog Software, Inc.<br>> <a href="http://www.bulldogsoftware.com">http://www.bulldogsoftware.com</a><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Filepro-list mailing list<br>> Filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Subscription Changes<br>> <a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:39:25 -0400<br>From: Walter Vaughan <wvaughan@steelerubber.com><br>Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: filePro <filepro-list@lists.celestial.com><br>Message-ID: <4E205F2D.7030106@steelerubber.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Richard Kreiss wrote:<br><br>>Top post<br>><br>>I have a client running win server 2008 with 25 plus users with no performance problems. <br>><br>We're not looking at Apples correctly here.<br>Server 2008 is available in 32bit and 64bit version<br>Server2008R2 is only available in 64bit version<br><br>32bit binaries may not run at at full speed on a 64bit Windows OS.<br><br>Saying server 2008 is like saying "personal computer".<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 6<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:52:00 -0400<br>From: Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net><br>Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: Walter Vaughan <wvaughan@steelerubber.com><br>Cc: filePro <filepro-list@lists.celestial.com><br>Message-ID: <4E206220.8050106@spamcop.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>On 7/15/2011 11:39 AM, Walter Vaughan wrote:<br>[...]<br>> 32bit binaries may not run at at full speed on a 64bit Windows OS.<br>[...]<br><br>Even if that's true (and I'm not certain it is), that wouldn't explain why <br>it slows down to 1/12th the speed when a second user is on:<br><br>> rreport will take 51 seconds to count down 100 records. With 2 users it<br>> takes 10 minutes.<br><br>And, unless processing is doing a huge amount of work on every record, two <br>records a second is extremely slow to begin with.<br><br>Note that I don't have any Win2008 systems. I am, however, on a 64-bit Win7 <br>box.<br><br>-- <br>Kenneth Brody<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 7<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 16:11:21 +0000<br>From: Chris Sellitto <sellich@guaranteedreturns.com><br>Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: "filepro-list@lists.celestial.com"<br> <filepro-list@lists.celestial.com><br>Message-ID:<br> <87A7E128D9022C48A00D8D51868A27FF06EE754E@GRXMAIL1.extranet.guaranteedreturns.com><br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>TOP POST<br><br>Just a curious question. How did the client "eliminate" AV as an issue?<br><br>Chris<br><br>> A little more info:<br>><br>> Client has eliminated AV as an issue. All indexes had been rebuilt. All<br>> of<br>> the usual post-migration steps were taken. All of the usual trouble-<br>> shooting<br>> was done (25 years experience). A router is being used not a switch.<br>><br>[...]<br><br>________________________________<br><br>Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail, delete this message and destroy all copies thereof.<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 8<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:05:49 -0400<br>From: Richard Kreiss <rkreiss@verizon.net><br>Subject: Re: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: Walter Vaughan <wvaughan@steelerubber.com><br>Cc: filePro <filepro-list@lists.celestial.com><br>Message-ID: <79B61FE4-C1C2-4E47-8671-68364AD011AE@verizon.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<br><br>Top post:<br><br>My client is running 64bit win 2008 server in virtual mode. I am not sure what Vm software they are using. <br><br>My office system is 32 bit server 2003 with my newest workstation running win 7 64 bit ultimate. I have no performance problems. <br><br>I am curious, are the users using terminal server or running FP on desktop computers?<br><br>Also, is they're connecting using a router/switch, it is possible that the switch portion of the device may have a bad port causing this slowness. <br><br>One of my clients had this problem when they used a bad extra switch to add more connections in a second floor office. As soon as this bad switch was replaced, the system performance returned. <br><br>Richard<br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On Jul 15, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Walter Vaughan <wvaughan@steelerubber.com> wrote:<br><br>> Richard Kreiss wrote:<br>> <br>>> Top post<br>>> <br>>> I have a client running win server 2008 with 25 plus users with no performance problems. <br>>> <br>> We're not looking at Apples correctly here.<br>> Server 2008 is available in 32bit and 64bit version<br>> Server2008R2 is only available in 64bit version<br>> <br>> 32bit binaries may not run at at full speed on a 64bit Windows OS.<br>> <br>> Saying server 2008 is like saying "personal computer".<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Filepro-list mailing list<br>> Filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Subscription Changes<br>> <a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 9<br>Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:09:51 -0400<br>From: "Ryan Powers" <ryanx@indy.rr.com><br>Subject: RE: Windows2008R2 and filePro<br>To: "'filePro'" <filepro-list@lists.celestial.com><br>Message-ID: <003b01cc4312$02991180$07cb3480$@rr.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>Again, great replies everyone.<br><br>I'll send the feedback up through the chain. No idea about how they checked<br>the AV status, but that will be included, as well as the patches and<br>possible router issue.<br><br><br>---<br>Ryan Powers<br>Bulldog Software, Inc.<br><a href="http://www.bulldogsoftware.com">http://www.bulldogsoftware.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Filepro-list mailing list<br>Filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br><a href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list</a><br><br><br>End of Filepro-list Digest, Vol 90, Issue 18<br>********************************************<br></blockquote></body></html>