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<div> Am I understanding that you installed filePro on a ubuntu box using filePro that</div>
<div> is for SCO OpenServer??</div>
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<div> Just trying to clarify....</div>
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<div> thanks</div>
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<div> Scott<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/25/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">John Esak</b> <<a href="mailto:john.esak@21appr.com">john.esak@21appr.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi,<br><br>Okay, I know I'll take the flack for using this great forum to ask a<br>question that seems non-filePro related.... I'll ask uit at the end of the<br>
next couple paragraphs.... let me try and attach some filePro basis for the<br>question though... :-) it will be lame, but hopefully informative??<br><br>Okay, so OT:, and just in case anyone cares. We have just put a great<br>
filePro app on "ubuntu" Linux. This is a Debian derivative. Everyone knows<br>I have felt Linux to be not ready for prime time for a long time now...<br>Well, releases like this latest ubuntu will change not only my mind, but the<br>
minds of lots of folks who think like me. I mean for the Linux crowd to<br>have been working for so many years and still have not come up with a decent<br>"color" setup a la "setcolor" from SCO... it is just crazy.<br>
<br>Okay, the ubuntu, you download a file, burn it to a CD, use the CD on just<br>about any P"C (server, etc.)... it asks you about 4 questions like "do you<br>want to use the whole disk for Linux?" even if it is a multi-disk FAID5<br>
that you want, and so forth.... the simple questions done in seconds, the<br>thing loads itself completely on your box and it's ready to go. From this<br>point you can get or (unget) any package you want with a simple command<br>
like:<br><br>Sudo apt-get install package-name<br><br>And<br><br>Sudo apt-get remove package-name<br><br>It's just too easy... and the way it should be ... finally... no more<br>worries about dependencies, "making" programs, libraries, etc., etc. It<br>
just deals with all that goop for you. Can you tell I like this Linux? :-)<br><br>The bottom line is that filePro works dead easy on this box. (you really<br>just need to copy over the "ansi" terminfo from your working SCO box... and<br>
the ansi termcap defs from it as well. And if you use FacetWin, make sure<br>that "inetd" is working properly. (an apt-get package thing only.) If you<br>use Bob's anzio product to get to the Linux server, I don't think much of<br>
anything would be required. Printing just works out of the box... even<br>local printing (PFPT=ON). You can even use the "useradd" command to<br>duplicate your old Unix users, ID, directory and all.<br><br>Just a point of info for all you folks who don't have any other easy means<br>
of hearing stuff like this. You can load a server version of ubuntu, or<br>just load the desktop version and add the server things you need, same<br>difference... there are other versions of Linux that people like, Redhat,<br>
suse, etc. I may scope some of these out at some time, sure, but this was<br>an easy, really easy way to migrate a SCO/filePro system... and months from<br>now you will be hearing about ubuntu working well in many installations,<br>
just like you heard the same about suse for while and others. Funny, but I<br>learned that my PDA (which is the coolest Linux based thing in the world) is<br>a Debian system... when I get to the console on this device through ssh, all<br>
the same commands as used on ubuntu work here. Very cool.<br><br><br><br>Now for my question.<br><br>The ls command does a lot of color changing for lots of different<br>reasons.... directories, executable files, etc. It is beyond annoying... If<br>
you have a black background like me... it is IMPOSSIBLE.<br><br>I have gotten the great help from various folks and made the "ls" command to<br>work like the "l" command I know and love (skipping the color thing) by<br>
doing this in my .profile....<br><br>type ls | grep -q alias && { unalias ls; echo unalias ls; }<br>l () { ls -al $*; }<br>lf () { ls -aCF $*; }<br><br>It stops the program from doing any color shifting.... great. Now, I have<br>
to stop "vi" from doing it as well. On this Linux, "vim" is the choice for<br>vi... it is an improved vi and great for editing any kind of file including<br>binary files and things with unprintable characters like pcl files. So,<br>
anyway, I start off by doing this in the .profile.<br><br>alias vi="vim -T ansi $* -u /root/.vimrc"<br><br>This gets me using vim and pointing to an initialization file for it<br>".vimrc". so what do I put in this .vimrc to STOP the damn color shifting<br>
in vi????? I have read the info about "syntax" and tried<br><br>Syntax off<br>Set syntax=off<br>Set syntax off<br><br>And every other variation... I won't bore you with the extent I've gone to<br>trying to get color shifting to not happen. There is a setting<br>
Se<br>background=dark<br><br>Which promised to be good for my situation... no deal.. You still get the<br>whackiest, craziest changes of colors while in vi or entering or leaving<br>it.... usually ending up in blue on red.... blue on red!!! This is like<br>
Navy eye tests.... impossible.<br><br>I have looked all through the "dircolors" command... but this doesn't seem<br>to apply, and/or doesn't work.... Damn, I have waded through the hundreds of<br>locations for vimrc... .../share/Debian/blah/blah... etc., etc. and made<br>
changes everywhre nothing obtains. I have spent probably 4 to 6 hours of<br>what I would humbly call valuable time on this stupidly simple thing.... I<br>just want to turn a "feature" off.<br><br>I don't want color in "vi"....<br>
<br>Ultimately, I would LOVE to be able to govern the color of my screen so I<br>could do what I so easily do on SCO, change my foreground and background<br>based on my PFDIR... live, or dev, etc.<br><br>Can anyone help. I'll even pay. :-) Seriously, I will pay your consulting<br>
fee to educate me about this stuff. I know, and have this nagging belief<br>that someone is going to write... you idiot, just type:<br><br><br>Color off<br>A<br>T the prompt or something incredibly stupid like that.... I don't care.<br>
Send me the pain. I simply have to solve this... since I am doing lots of<br>work on Linux these days, and particularly this Debian version "ubuntu".<br><br>Thanks in advance.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br><br>
<br><br><br><br><br>John Esak<br>21st Century Appraisals, Inc<br>1801 Oberlin Rd, Middletown, PA 17057<br>717-985-0200 x 1141<br><a href="mailto:john.esak@21appr.com">john.esak@21appr.com</a><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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