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<DIV>Referencing small note at bottom about AOL, when you decided to filter out all there email out you alienated about half the USA based on web ISP statistics. </DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne Smith</DIV>
<DIV>Port Orange, Florida </DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:bill@celestial.com">Bill Campbell</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 9/26/2007 12:44:33 PM</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:filepro-list@lists.celestial.com">filepro-list@lists.celestial.com</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: I don't see the emails from the list.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Wed, Sep 26, 2007, Kenneth Brody wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>>Quoting Mike Fedko (Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:02:31 -0400):</DIV>
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<DIV>>> I have subscribed to the filepro list. I don't get any emails from</DIV>
<DIV>>> the list. The only response I received from the list is one from</DIV>
<DIV>>> Mike Schwartz who also sent it direct to my email also. Can someone</DIV>
<DIV>>> help with this.</DIV>
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<DIV>>Well, they're definitely coming through. And, as I recall, this list</DIV>
<DIV>>is set up so that only subscribers can post. (Bill can confirm or</DIV>
<DIV>>refute this.) And, had messages to you been bouncing, you would have</DIV>
<DIV>>been unsubscribed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes, the list is subscriber only, but I regularly approve</DIV>
<DIV>legitimate postings from non-subscribers.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I've seen Mailman suspend subscriptions to one or more</DIV>
<DIV>adelphia addresses as a result of multiple bounces. I don't</DIV>
<DIV>remember the details, but the bounces may well have been things</DIV>
<DIV>like exceeding quotas.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>So, it sounds like the messages are being sent to you, but something</DIV>
<DIV>>on your end is filtering them out. Check with your ISP. Perhaps they</DIV>
<DIV>>have implemented some "silent" filtering, which simply throws anything</DIV>
<DIV>>that they decide is spam into the bit bucket without informing the</DIV>
<DIV>>sender or recipient.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Some ISPs are using ``grey listing'', a process in which messages</DIV>
<DIV>are initially rejected with a 400 series SMTP message, later to</DIV>
<DIV>be accepted. The idea is that legitimate MTAs (Mail Transport</DIV>
<DIV>Agents) will retry later while spammer's malware probably won't.</DIV>
<DIV>This may result in delays sending messages to these ISPs.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>On a somewhat related note, e-mail complaints to AOL that result</DIV>
<DIV>in AOL's sending us ``SCOMP'' notices will result in the related</DIV>
<DIV>address being removed from the list without notice.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bill</DIV>
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<DIV>INTERNET: <A href="mailto:bill@celestial.com">bill@celestial.com</A> Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC</DIV>
<DIV>URL: <A href="http://www.celestial.com/">http://www.celestial.com/</A> PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way</DIV>
<DIV>FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676</DIV>
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<DIV>Independent self-reliant people would be a counterproductive anachronism</DIV>
<DIV>in the collective society of the future where people will be defined by</DIV>
<DIV>their associations. 1896 John Dewey, educational philosopher, proponent</DIV>
<DIV>of modern public schools.</DIV>
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