<br><br><b><i>"Brian K. White" <brian@aljex.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "Fairlight" <fairlite @fairlite.com=""><br>To: <filepro-list @lists.celestial.com=""><br>Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:23 PM<br>Subject: Re: fpgroups.com: A raw chat room is now available<br><br><br>> On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 06:07:53AM -0700, fp@casabellagallery.com may or<br>> may not have proven themselves an utter git by pronouncing:<br>>><br>>> > "Do you want polite, or do you want sincere?" --Unknown<br>>><br>>> Sincere is good, I do not have a problem with being sincere.<br>><br>> Good, since I have a hard time being polite while being sincere--at least<br>> from the recipient's point of view. It's not like I set out to be rude.<br>> People just don't handle very well the fact that I don't
sugarcoat things.<br><br>It's understandable not to want to "sugar coat" things. It takes effort. <br>sometimes considerable effort, and it's overhead robbing time and thought <br>from the real work at hand. I find it's worth it.<br><br>Several of my friends claim to have varying degrees of something called <br>Asperger's Syndrome.<br>The symptoms are basically that you say whatever you think with no <br>concession (they claim actually no awareness) of the social ramifications.<br><br>Perhaps I have touch of Asperger's myself in that I have a hard time being <br>understanding about this and all I really think is "No, this Asperger's <br>sounds like a bs excuse for being an asshole. I reject it. No excuses, stop <br>being a dink or stop expecting anyone else to treat you with any respect. <br>Your brain works, you can add 2 + 2, you have no excuse for not realizing <br>the results of things you say and how you say them. Yes, sometimes it <br>requires a little effort and
thinking before saying. Well Waahhh."<br><br>Except... I _think_ that. I usually don't _say_ that without sufficient <br>reason or outside of just the right context. Because, 2 + 2, this isn't hard <br>math, I value them as friends. Specifically, I value them more than I value <br>my opinion of how they should talk. If once in a while the topic comes up in <br>conversation where my opinion was actually solicited, I usually say it <br>truthfully, and yet even then I find it's possible to be honest and sincere <br>without being callous. The reason it's called consideration, is because <br>that's all it involves, considering a little. When is that ever not worth <br>doing? Why should it be not worth doing in this context?<br><br>For the record, I agree with every one of your technical points. Not just <br>that they sounded sensible to me, but as a long time user of many chat <br>interfaces myself, I know the points were all dead-on and there's really no <br>room for argument
or interpretation. This stuff was all figured out long <br>ago.<br><br>Perhaps you were more helpful than me by saying anything, in whatever <br>unpalatable form, vs nothing.<br><br>Then again, what I said (nothing) was really the truest response at least in <br>my case. It reflects my no-special-interest, positive or negative. It sounds <br>nice enough, and except for one potential issue I have no reason to <br>discourage it, So I haven't said anything negative. But:<br>* Johns chat room already exists so for me there is no market for another <br>one.<br>* jhimport/jhexport already exists so for me there is no market for another <br>one. (being free is nice, but is it comparable to JH's?) Plus I just write <br>my own all the time anyways. If I want an interactive autogenerator I can <br>write that too.<br>* The mail list already exists, so for me there is no market for a newsgroup <br>or web forum.<br><br>etc etc.. so, to me, so far, it's a solution to a problem that I
don't have <br>and I have no special positive thing to say either.<br><br>The one potential harm is that because our community is so small there is <br>actually some harm in redundant options because it may dilute the already <br>too-small resource.<br><br>The product (the site) will thrive or stagnate on it's own merits and the <br>best thing Jose could do, if he wants those merits to imrove and increase, <br>is take every single thing you've said as gospel.<br><br>But what is your motivation for saying anything in the first place? If it <br>was to be ignored or contested for invalid non-technical reasons, then you <br>did perfectly. If it was to provide useful feedback that will get at least <br>considered, let alone acted upon, then it's worth your while to consider <br>what flavor of pill to deliver the medecine in. It doesn't have to be pure <br>sugar any more than it has to be rotten eggs.<br><br>Brian K. White brian@aljex.com
http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR<br>+++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++.<br>filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk!<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Filepro-list mailing list<br>Filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<br>http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list<br></filepro-list></fairlite></blockquote>Mr. White your tact is only outdone by your intelligence and your respect for mankind and how mankind should be. Well done sir!<br><p> 
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