<BR><BR><B><I>John Esak <john@valar.com></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Sorry Don,<BR>This I know... it only works for Unix based apps. but I bleiieve it can<BR>handlwe Windows server apps as long as there is a Linux box for this thing<BR>to reside on somewhere. You need to talk directly with Sound Ideas to find<BR>out if this is corect.<BR><BR>John<BR><BR><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Don Coleman [mailto:dcoleman@dgcreact.com]<BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 AM<BR>> To: john@valar.com<BR>> Subject: Top Post RE: The future of filePro... one major one anyway!<BR>><BR>><BR>> John:<BR>><BR>> Do you know if this app. can provide GUI capabilities to Windows-based fP<BR>> apps as well, or just Unix?<BR>><BR>><BR>> Don Coleman<BR>> Donald G. Coleman, Consultant<BR>> 402 Andrew Circle<BR>> Indiana, PA 15701<BR>>
dcoleman@dgcreact.com<BR>> (724) 349-6302<BR>><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: filepro-list-bounces+dcoleman=dgcreact.com@lists.celestial.com<BR>> ><BR>> [mailto:filepro-list-bounces+dcoleman=dgcreact.com@lists.celestial.com] On<BR>> > Behalf Of John Esak<BR>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:29 AM<BR>> > To: Filepro-List@Lists. Celestial. Com<BR>> > Subject: ADV: The future of filePro... one major one anyway!<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Hello World,<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm going to write a few sentences here to briefly describe a<BR>> new product<BR>> > I<BR>> > have had the pleasure (and honor) to see grow from an idea into<BR>> what will<BR>> > in<BR>> > my opinion instantly become one of the most important futures<BR>> of filePro.<BR>> > It<BR>> > comes from Sound Ideas, and is called Reface.<BR>> ><BR>> > I won't
steal his thunder, and I can NOT in a few words describe the<BR>> > massive<BR>> > complexity of design that makes this program what it is, nor will I try<BR>> > and<BR>> > describe how it works... I'll let Dave (the author) and his formal<BR>> > announcement and press release in the next week or so do that<BR>> good stuff.<BR>> > I<BR>> > will say, however, that this is it. This is, finally, the holy<BR>> grail. By<BR>> > that I mean it is the product we have all been looking for this past 20<BR>> > years or so for filePro.<BR>> ><BR>> > Okay, okay... what does it do! As simply put as I can do it, "Reface"<BR>> > allows<BR>> > you to convert your existing filePro Unix applications to full<BR>> Windows GUI<BR>> > programs.<BR>> ><BR>> > It does this totally respecting every bit of processing you<BR>> have, yet does<BR>> > it with Windows style screens, buttons,
etc., that give the user full<BR>> > mouse-ability and the uncompromising belief that they are running a<BR>> > Windows<BR>> > graphical application rather than a character based database.<BR>> Do NOT make<BR>> > the assumption that this is some kind of "screen scraper" or<BR>> anything even<BR>> > remotely like that. It is absolutely nothing like anything you<BR>> (or I) have<BR>> > ever seen before, and it is so far ahead of everything else out there,<BR>> > that<BR>> > as I said it will instantly become the de-facto method for putting<BR>> > completely graphical Windows front ends on any legacy character based<BR>> > application.<BR>> ><BR>> > This year SCO is spotlighting how to bring legacy character based apps<BR>> > into<BR>> > the GUI world... *but* they are showing and suggesting only ancient and<BR>> > essentially ridiculous programs to accomplish this. All of
the<BR>> things they<BR>> > are suggesting and "pushing" in their upcoming technical conference are<BR>> > *incapable* of truly doing the job in nearly every way. They<BR>> all come from<BR>> > an outmoded "idea" of how to do the job, so they can never be really<BR>> > "right", and they will never be anything but slow, cumbersome<BR>> (and stupid<BR>> > looking) bad screen renderings of your app that look like and work like<BR>> > just<BR>> > what they are, crap.<BR>> ><BR>> > When everyone sees what Sound Ideas has come up with this time,<BR>> and I know<BR>> > it has taken them years to do right, everything else on the<BR>> market will be<BR>> > blown away. You don't have to take my word for it, just wait<BR>> and see. The<BR>> > approach and methodology Dave has used to make this product work the way<BR>> > we<BR>> > all have been waiting for is going to succeed where
everything else has<BR>> > failed. He already has the product out there in a couple<BR>> places where the<BR>> > participating developer has a huge user base of a filePro app that they<BR>> > simply can not afford to "re-write" in Windows... nor do they really<BR>> > *want*<BR>> > to do this! Hell, the programs are written in filePro and<BR>> because of that<BR>> > are fantastically powerful and correct for their users, why in the world<BR>> > would they want to change them? They don't, all they want to do is make<BR>> > them full GUI compliant apps that "look and feel" like Windows programs.<BR>> > Users these days want, need, and honestly *deserve* to roll from any of<BR>> > their other Windows programs directly into their filePro app without<BR>> > thinking they've gone into the dark ages of DOS... losing not only their<BR>> > mouse and their cut and paste, but their entire intuitive<BR>>
*feel* of how to<BR>> > run things on their desktop. This new product, Reface, lets you do this<BR>> > for<BR>> > them... and for your filePro packages... yes the ones you've<BR>> been working<BR>> > on<BR>> > for all your life. You don't have to lose them, change them or<BR>> drop any of<BR>> > their functionality. You get to just convert and re-design<BR>> their look and<BR>> > feel to be *mainstream*. Yes, I think this product from Sound<BR>> Ideas will<BR>> > finally move filePro into that "real" world which has been so<BR>> illusive for<BR>> > it in the past.<BR>> ><BR>> > Best of all, the product is reasonably priced for what it does. If you<BR>> > have<BR>> > a package that is deployed to many people out there, imagine<BR>> what it would<BR>> > cost to rewrite it, or have it rewritten by someone else to be a full<BR>> > Windows GUI application? $20K maybe for
starters? Who knows... the only<BR>> > starting point for such a task is *high* whatever it is. Besides, the<BR>> > first<BR>> > thing that really happens if you take that route is that you lose design<BR>> > control and adaptability control and in general the ability to<BR>> just change<BR>> > your program at will, or whenever a user needs something, that filePro<BR>> > gives you. With Reface, you not only don't lose any of this because you<BR>> > still program *in* filePro, but you gain the sorely wanted ability to<BR>> > enhance your apps by doing all the graphical stuff you've<BR>> always wanted to<BR>> > do... be it just make the damn program mousable with nice looking fonts,<BR>> > buttons, and dropdowns, etc., or, doing some of the new, really valuable<BR>> > things Reface empowers you to do like browsing through images in a parts<BR>> > file and flipping through GUI filePro screens and
functionality<BR>> as you do<BR>> > it... all never taking your hand off the mouse!<BR>> ><BR>> > All right, I've gotten the "wow!" out of my system...I can't<BR>> wait for the<BR>> > formal release in the next couple weeks. When you see it...<BR>> take a good<BR>> > look. Remember, this product comes from the same people who<BR>> brought us so<BR>> > many amazing programs before, from the dead simple but<BR>> wonderful Datapipe,<BR>> > to the amazing Weblink, which is without doubt the simplest, most secure<BR>> > and<BR>> > dead easiest way to integrate your Unix filePro apps with a<BR>> website... if<BR>> > you haven't seen Weblink, take my word for it... this product<BR>> does exactly<BR>> > what you want and more. I couldn't work a day without it when<BR>> it comes to<BR>> > the web and filePro integration. However, we are not talking about this<BR>> > stuff now... we
are talking about Reface... or at least we certainly all<BR>> > will be doing so shortly. I'm betting also all the X-org and IXnet and<BR>> > W-cubed legacy-to-GUI engineers out there. This is not just a something<BR>> > for<BR>> > filePro, although it has been specifically designed to facilitate moving<BR>> > filePro to GUI, it will work with *any* character-based *nix app.<BR>> ><BR>> > I'm so glad to have been a little in the background on this one in that<BR>> > Dave<BR>> > Stauble is my long time friend, and therefore able to scoop the news to<BR>> > you<BR>> > first. Once again, as with any of my reviews or "scoops", this was<BR>> > completely unsolicited. Sound Ideas has no idea :-) I've<BR>> written it. Like<BR>> > I<BR>> > say, I'm not trying to steal any thunder, just ride on top of<BR>> the wave as<BR>> > it<BR>> > happens.<BR>> ><BR>> > So, what is
the summary of all this praise and premature disclosure? If<BR>> > you've got big (or little) filePro Unix apps (or even just<BR>> ideas) and you<BR>> > want to put them on everyone's desktop in a way they will immediately<BR>> > accept and love... check this out when Sound Ideas does their<BR>> release next<BR>> > week or so, you will not be disappointed.<BR>> ><BR>> > John Esak<BR>> > Hazleton, PA<BR>> ><BR>> > Visit The FilePro Room at www.tinyurl.com/97y9u<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > Filepro-list mailing list<BR>> > Filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<BR>> > http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list<BR>><BR>><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Filepro-list mailing list<BR>Filepro-list@lists.celestial.com<BR><A
href="http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list">http://mailman.celestial.com/mailman/listinfo/filepro-list</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><BR>Don & John ,</div> <div> </div> <div>I spoke to Dave (Sound Ideas) yesterday on this very subject. Yes this will work on a Windows network IF you have a *nix box on the network. Reface resides on and the development work (I believe) is done on that box.</div> <div> </div> <div>BTW... Apparently a lot of us shared John's excitement since Dave to me the phone has been ringing off the hook from the filePro community.</div> <div> </div> <div>Rick Hane</div> <div>Controller</div> <div>DeLuxe Stitcher Company</div> <div><A href="http://www.deluxestitcher.com">www.deluxestitcher.com</A></div> <div>773-777-6500</div> <div> </div>