Slightly OT for those of us who started on Tandy Hardware

[Wayne Smith]

I bought and used one of these when I was a Draftsman at a Metal Bellows
Mfg company here in Daytona Beach in the mid-80's,  I grew familiar with
BASIC and set the little guy up to do many heavy calculations to do the
formulas to calculate bellows pressure die stamping curves.   I got a raise
and promoted to lead Draftsman at the time.  whooohoooo.  Laugh

[image: RadioShack PC-2.JPG]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 9:48 PM Richard Kreiss via Filepro-list <
filepro-list at lists.celestial.com> wrote:

> My daughter's first word processor was Scripsit on my Tandy 16 running
> Xenix.  She had a terminal in her room.  That must have been in the early
> 80's as she was in 8th grade (1983).
>
> She was way ahead of her teachers and classmates when it came to using a
> computer.
>
> They were teaching BASIC at the time and spent 5 weeks teaching if, when
> programming.
>  I taught her and a number of her friends this in about an hour.  The
> class was still learning the basics of if/when programming and not any real
> programming.
>
> I felt that teaching program was a complete waste of time as computer
> users would be able to purchase the programs they needed and not have to
> write them from scratch.  There were students who were writing and selling
> games who had a better knowledge of programming then the teachers.
>
> I am not sure what they are teaching now. I hope it has something to do
> with security. The problem is that many school districts are using Apple
> computers (donated by Apple) and not machines used by businesses i.e. *nix
> or Windows based computers.  Yes, there are a few business which are on
> Apple products but not many.
>
>
> Richard Kreiss
> GCC Consulting
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Filepro-list <filepro-list-bounces+rkreiss=
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> > On Behalf Of Bill Campbell via Filepro-list
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 7:57 PM
> > To: filepro-list at lists.celestial.com
> > Subject: Re: Slightly OT for those of us who started on Tandy Hardware
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> >
> > >WordStar was a minor nightmare.  It's the only editor I can think of
> > >that used more control keys than EMACS.  :)
> >
> > >I knew how to use all of them at one point.  If there was a word
> > >processor on the market, I was trained on it.  Even Word/36 on
> > >System/36, and that's really bloody obscure (and yet, I had a gig doing
> just that
> > for a while).
> >
> > I never used WordStar, but then I never ran a CP/M machine either.
> >
> > The only word processor I knew well was Scripsit, mostly because I had to
> > demonstrate it to potential customers.  I use LibreOffice now, but don't
> consider
> > myself really proficient with it.  Most of the documentaton I've written
> as been
> > written in the vi editor for groff or Docbook.  I'm answering this
> message in mutt
> > with vi.
> >
> > I've been using vi since 1982 or so, and it's second nature to my
> fingers.  I write a
> > lot of python scripts, and my code would drive a Pythonista nuts as I use
> > commented curly braces around blocks of code so I can use the vi '%' key
> to find
> > matching braces.
> >
> > >Those days are gone.  Use it or lose it, and I haven't needed anything
> > >like that in years.
> >
> > >But yeah, WordStar was...  I don't know many who -liked- WordStar.  It
> > >wasn't as bad as some made out, but it was needlessly taxing on the
> > >human memory.  EMACS is much the same, although I liked EMACS a lot
> > >when I was using it.  My CLI is still EMACS bindings; I'll willingly
> > >use a modal CLI over my dead body.
> >
> > ..
> >
> > Bill
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Wayne Smith
Port Orange, Florida
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