OT: Net Neutrality

[Paul McNary]

Hello Mark
I will try to find something. The 400 page document has a lot but it the 
additional
implementation in rule-making, ie how the fcc rule-making (bureaucratic law)
is implemented.
The equipment is not magic. Like you, I don't have any free time and usually
I don't debate things as much as I used to. The 'devil' is in the 
details and in the
rule making that gets implemented. IANAL, so I depend on my lawyer and 
WISPA's
general council and members that work the efforts on our behalf in D.C,
that is in daily contact with the FCC commissioners and staff as well as 
our elected
officials. You probably won't hear much out of me on this subject, I am not
a boot on the ground. Just wanted to let people know that there is a counter
viewpoint that people need to at least look at. I will always accept the
fact that your view is vital to make our system work and I will defend 
your right
to express that.
Take care
Paul


On 1/24/2017 9:23 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
> Apparently -nobody- is reporting on any reports required, because so far I
> can't find what you're referencing.  Unfortunately, I don't have the free
> time to read a 400 page law.
>
> Can you cite either a source which openly discusses it, or a specific
> clause with a specific statute reference code?
>
> I just tried searching for it, and even CNET's distillation (which is
> larger than most) didn't evoke any negative connotations.
>
> I'm friends with the GM of a local ISP (the same one Bob Stockler used
> since he came online, until he passed).  I've never heard the GM say
> anything negative about NN.  I've never asked directly, but I've never even
> heard rumblings.
>
> I'd earnestly love to know what magic hardware you feel is required.
>
> Having been the sole admin of an ISP for 2.5 years in the late 90s into the
> early 2000s, I'm conversant with the hardships of running an ISP in that
> era, although I grant a lot of things have likely changed with the tech.
> Realistically, -small- ISPs are dying, though.  As broadband penetrates
> further and further, they're either dying, or they're reselling the big
> boys' networks.  Aforementioned local ISP resells AT&T DSL circuits.
>
> I'm always willing to consider alternative evidence and change my opinion
> as necessary.  However, until I see a specific statute clause reference and
> read it, I can't tell it even exists, and there's nothing to reconsider.
> Right now, it's your word against everything we've been reading for the
> last half-decade.  I'm happy to hear specifics, though.
>
> mark->
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 08:47:31PM -0600, Paul McNary via Filepro-list thus spoke:
>> As an ISP, Net Neutrality is a nightmare. If it is enforced as
>> written, we would have to quadruple
>> out subscriber's cost, just to install the hardware required to fill
>> out the reports required from
>> the net neutrality mess. It was truly a wolf disguised in sheep's
>> clothing. The bullet points
>> sound pretty good, but under the surface the rule making as
>> implemented, is a nightmare. It is
>> not the talking points but the details that are not published in the
>> news articles.
>>
>> It really only affects the companies that can't afford big law firms
>> to write their terms and service
>> and defend frivolous lawsuits and demands. The big boys, ie the
>> wireless cell and giant companies have already
>> changed their terms of service to make it impossible for Net
>> Neutrality to work for the good of the consumer.
>>
>> I'm sorry Mark but the details are a killer for a small ISP like we
>> are. As liberal as I am, (JP knows this about me), Pai and O'Reilly
>> have been at the small ISP's service for the past 8 years. Wheeler
>> has had his pockets lined with the big boys money.
>> I have personally met both of these commissioners in the past 3
>> years at events of WISPA (Wireless Internet Services Providers
>> Association). Most of us are small mom and pop type operations like
>> most of the filePro developers are. WISPA has feet on
>> the ground in D.C., besides members spending much time in D.C.,
>> WISPA has lobbyists and law firms dedicated to the benefit
>> of WISPA members. WISPA legal team files many comments to the FCC
>> and legislators. The members get daily updates
>> by the lead lawyers on our mailing lists daily.  We have also had
>> several briefings from Pai and O'Reily since Trump was elected.
>> Pai has been in contact with us this week after being formally
>> appointed. I have very little respect for most Republicans, but
>> these
>> these 2 are giant exceptions. I have no use for Wheeler!
>>
>> Pai's parent are farmers out in the middle of Kansas where only a
>> mom and pop WISP is willing to serve the area.
>>
>> NET NEUTRALITY is not what, the name says!
>> I will fight tooth and nail to repeal the reporting aspects at the
>> least of Net Neutrality. ie (Remember JP and Esak's flame wars of
>> the 80's?)
>>
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> Paul McNary
>>
>> pmcnary at cameron.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/24/2017 8:05 PM, Fairlight via Filepro-list wrote:
>>> Just read an article regarding the new nominee for FCC Chair being
>>> anti-net-neutrality and wanting to roll back the 2015 rules.
>>>
>>> I'm not a political person, but this issue actually matters to me, as it
>>> should to anyone who uses the Internet.
>>>
>>> Please sign this if you're concerned about possibly losing net neutrality,
>>> and distribute it as widely as possible.
>>>
>>> I'm not a social butterly, but I'm pulling out all the stops I can to try
>>> and get this the attention it should have.
>>>
>>> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/permanently-guarantee-net-neutrality
>>>
>>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>>
>>> mark->
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