E-mail using filepro

[John Esak]

I would have agred with you about Resdidential vs Business accounts, but my
cousin John Claude used to get continual grief and blockages on his business
acount for 100 message sends.  I never had any touble with my out in the
sticks Pennsylvania rural account. This data is from 3 years agao though.
Things have I'm sure changed a lot.

I think everyone knows that the basic architecture of SMTP itself lends
itself to terrible misuse. No one ever thought anything like what happened
with the net would happen.  You would think that there would be a concerted
effort to make some substantive changes in these past couple decades.
Although, to my mind, it would be like saying there is a basic flaw with our
hiway system and we need to change it. We can make changes... But they
aren't going to be basic.

John
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: filepro-list-bounces+john=valar.com at lists.celestial.com 
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m] On Behalf Of Fairlight
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:45 PM
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> Subject: Re: E-mail using filepro
> 
> Four score and seven years--eh, screw that!
> At about Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 08:19:44PM -0400,
> John Esak blabbed on about:
> > Don't know exactly what you mean by "mass emails".  In any 
> case, your
> > limitation is going to be your ISP. They are usually 
> shutting down anything
> > over 50 or 100 cc's. or bcc's.  
> 
> That assumes you use your ISP's SMTP server.  If you have an ISP that
> allows use of outbound SMTP traffic from your own hosts, you 
> can set up
> an MTA locally and use that.  It's fairly common for that traffic to
> be blocked on residential accounts, although not as common on business
> accounts.
> 
> > Otherwise, it's pretty easy, and you are only sending one email at a
> > time, so no one can ever consider it "mass" or "junk" 
> email.  At least, I
> > wouldn't think so... Or hope so.
> 
> Well, that's skirting the issue by splitting hairs, really.  If one is
> sending 5000 emails, that's mass mailing, whether it's done 
> with one RCPT
> TO at a time, ten at a time, or fifty at a time.  You're 
> still sending a
> message to 5000 people, so "mass" applies in any event, IMHO.
> 
> As for "junk", I think it's more helpful to look at it as whether it's
> unsolicited/opt-out, or if it's opt-in.  By opt-in, I mean -truly-
> opt-in.  A lot of spam claims it's opt-in, but most assuredly isn't
> transparently opt-in--usually places that bought/acquired 
> addresses from a
> partner company, like WinZip's creators and now Corel do, or 
> like PCTools
> does.  But if it's truly opt-in through a direct subscription 
> or direct,
> consensual business relationship, then it's definitely not 
> spam or junk.
> 
> If it's post-receipt opt-out, or even unsolicited, then I 
> would consider it
> junk.  I specify post-receipt opt-out, because I would 
> consider something
> like having the opportunity to uncheck a box on a 
> registration form that
> says, "Yes, I'd like to receive [insert description]," up-front to be
> equivalent to opt-in, since you can handle it pre-receipt.
> 
> mark->
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