[Capr-announce] FW: Rails to Trails Takings - Mark Your Calendars, August 20 5:30-7:30 Enumclaw Wash. Field House Petes Pool
Jeff Wright
darcors at comcast.net
Mon Aug 18 20:47:03 PDT 2008
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From: Jack Venrick [mailto:jacksranch at skynetbb.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:59 PM
To: Rodney McFarland CAPR; Jeff Wright CAPR
Subject: Fw: Rails to Trails Takings - Mark Your Calendars, August 20
5:30-7:30 Enumclaw Wash. Field House Petes Pool
Importance: High
Rod & Jeff -
Is there anyone home at CAPR? Can I get this or part of it sent out on the
Announce list please.?
Jack Venrick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Venrick <mailto:jacksranch at skynetbb.com>
To: jacksranch at skynetbb.com
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:12 PM
Subject: Rails to Trails Takings - Mark Your Calendars, August 20 5:30-7:30
Enumclaw Wash. Field House Petes Pool
LIMITED DISTRIBUTION TO PROPERTY RIGHTS SUPPORTERS ONLY
Jeff - Can you post this or whatever part you wish on the CAPR Announce
List?
Dear Property Rights Friends, CAPR Board, Senator Pam Roach, Representative
Dan Roach & Representative Chris Hurst:
Please mark your calendars for August 20, 2008, 5:30 - 7:30PM at the
Enumclaw, Washington community hall (Pete's Pool).
See the King County letter below.
CAPR President Steve Hammond cannot make this meeting. No other CAPR
(Citizen Alliance For Property Owners) board members have responded to date.
Senator Pam Roach has responded from Peking, China where she and her family
are attending the Olympics. Hopefully we will connect Thursday when she
gets home.
I urge you to contact those Senators and Representatives in your districts
who are for property rights to ask them to attend this meeting. The
"Foothills Trail" goes through at least Districts 25, 27, 30 & 31 in the
South End & probably many more if you start to look at the Puget Sound and
the State.
King County council member's are the problem here not the solution, i.e.
business as usual.
It is critical we have a large showing of property rights people at this
meeting. King County, City of Enumclaw and the State together with the
pedal bike zealots will try to railroad these trails through our private and
public property.
If Senator Roach cannot make it, I have concerns that this will be another
DOT Roundabout like or Nestles Bottling Plant like back door taking attempt.
The last meeting we had on this subject was at the Enumclaw City Hall with a
dozen other rural property owners, friends and neighbors of Ed Storm.
* We were not well represented by CAPR and District Representatives.
* I was there to represent CAPR, however, these local and county
officials have no fear or common sense.
* They tried to have me arrested and charged with "threatening them"
while they steal our private and public land for special use.
King County Washington, other Puget Sound counties, cities & State mentality
is -
* they have the rights
* and you have the "privileges"
* upside down and backwards as usual.
* Government types think they can "use" OUR PRIVATE AND PUBLIC land as
they like.
* When you tell them they don't have those rights,
* and you remind them of your FIRST, SECOND & FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
* THEY WILL TRY TO CONVERT YOUR RIGHTS INTO A THREAT
* to derail your action against them.
Local, county, state & federal government employee servants continue to
systematically take OUR PRIVATE AND PUBLIC PROPERTY
* using a sick double standard of locking up our pubic land
* WHILE SHUTTING DOWN USE OF OUR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY
* INCLUDING OUR HOMES, EQUIPMENT, ANIMALS, PRIVACY, etc.
A number of people at the first Rails To Trails meeting at Enumclaw, told
the Enumclaw Mayor and King County that they did not like this double
standard. (see report attached above "Rural Property Owner Tells Enumclaw
Mayor...") if you haven't already. Those comments fell on deaf and dumb
ears.
The government strategy used is to take the PRIVATE & PUBLIC property
quietly
* one property owner at a time and/or in groups,
* e.g. through the mail thereby not allowing each property owner to
join together and
* activate their own community and land use attorneys against the
counties and
* bike zealot groups doing the taking.
Also near-by Rail To Trail property owners end up suffering from all the
collateral damage of the trail are not informed.
* You can read more about this further in this email and those
attached.
* This is a huge problem, locally and nationally.
Another important point is that the laws of the land have been so perverted
* by CON..gress,
* corruption in the courts and
* disappearance of the original alloidal and patent land titles.
It will cost a property owner roughly $100K to fight off the government
* who is using your unconstitutional property taxes to take your
private and public property unconstitutionally.
Unless property rights people do a "Paul Revere" and get the word out,
* we will be stampeded AGAIN and
* herded into more state takings of our own PRIVATE & PUBLIC PROPERTY.
King County has taken down at least 250 abutting private property owners,
most did not have a clue what their rights are.
* There was no title searches,
* no expert land use legal counsel for the property owners,
* no challenge to the entire taking process & strategy
* no mention of the HIDDEN GREEN AGENDA PROCESS going on for decades.
WE NEED SOME HEAVY HITTERS AT THIS MEETING,
* i.e. private and public people willingly to standup and shove these
takings back down the throats of the county and those behind them.
King County will try the same old strategy
* of giving each person 2 minutes to talk.
* THIS SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.
* Our government servants do not come into our communities and tell us
how much time we have,
* WE TELL THEM THEY ARE GOING TO LISTEN UNTIL WE ARE ALL SATISFIED
THEY HAVE HEARD US.
This is how they control and strangle any resistance.
* These Rails To Trails takings have been in the works for decades.
* These meetings are only ceremony so the records to the courts can
show that the public has "had an opportunity to comment".
* This same tactic was used in the CAO takings, i.e. State Supreme
Court considers 2 minutes public input
* i.e. public testimony is a joke..when it is controlled, restricted &
staged.
Also, we should have one of the land use legal firms like Pacific Legal
Foundation(Brian Hodges) and/or Groen Stephens (Sam Rodabough) there.
* The government has saucer & blown the laws of the land
* such that they have these takings cooked before the papers and
meetings are served.
* Groen Stephens, a land use expert attorney firm here in Seattle,
won one case along the East Lake Sammamish trail
* but this cost probably $100K for those few abutting property owners
who can afford it.
The process AND the laws are cooked in the government's favor,
* to take PRIVATE AND PUBLIC property
* the government knows property owners rarely can afford to fight
* especially when they are unorganized and scattered around the county
and state.
We need legislation to stop this Rails To Trails Congressional "Act" ASAP
and all of its down stream collecteral damage.
However, until some brave Senators & Representatives get this together,
* we need overwhelming local resistance
* by local property rights people
* along with our Senators and Representatives and
* property rights groups
* King County, the State and cities cannot have it both ways,
* i.e. they cannot steal our private and public property inventory
with both hands
* while strangling our use of our own property with both feet.
"If we don't stand together, we will surely hang together.."
Thank you for your support of Ed Storm (Stormy) and those property owners
along and near these trails who are being literally railroaded.
Ed Storm and I can only do so much here.
If the rural property owners continue to not respond to these takings,
* these trails will be railroaded over your property also,
* its just a matter of time before the rural country surrounding the
bigger cities
* is turned into a park for urban feudal fortress King's Court use
only.
We are fighting for our traditional use of OUR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LAND not
some urban special interest zealot. They cannot have it both ways!
Jack Venrick
Enumclaw, Washington
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack <mailto:jacksranch at skynetbb.com> Venrick
To: Senator Pam <mailto:roach.pam at leg.wa.gov> Roach ; Rep.
<mailto:roach.dan at leg.wa.gov> Dan Roach ; Representative Chris Hurst
<mailto:hurst.christopher at leg.wa.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:36 PM
Subject: Dear Property Owner - We Have Plans To "Railroad" Your Property
Soon - Please Come To Our "Open House"
bcc: CAPR Board
Dear Senator Roach & Representative Roach & Hurst & CAPR Board:
I received this announcement below from Ed Storm and wanted to send this out
to everyone but thought it best to give you a heads up first.
This "meeting" , please see below, is going to be another DOT like bully
session, I'm sure. I attended the last one at the Enumclaw City Hall with a
dozen of the local rural property owners whose land use and claims are being
confiscated. It was "open season" on the unsuspecting rural property owners
including their one local Buckley attorney. The property owners didn't have
a chance and were figuratively chickens thrown in with the wolves. I was
dam near arrested and charged for telling the City and the County, they
could not do this. Representative Roach was supposed to be there, I believe
but couldn't make it. The former Mayor of Enumclaw and friend to Ed Storm
said he should have been there too to help. He appears to be against the
trail.
The counties and the state have been working on this for decades. The
property owners are the last to know and become involved in meeting charades
like this one at the eleventh hour and 59 minute. You are well aware of
the tactics used. They try to corral the ignorant and herd them down the
chute of taking. The decisions have already been made, the PA's have
systemically taken everyone's property and the use of it from them and the
local District courts have quickly complied.
My research shows the following groups pushing this:
1. Pierce and King County Park Departments,
2. Washington State Interagency Committee for Outdoor Recreation,
3. Foothills Trails Coalition -
http://www.piercecountytrails.org/board.php
4. The Washington Wildlife and Recreation Program (WWRP)
1.
http://www.wildliferecreation.org/wwrp-projects/projects/Buckley_to_South_Pr
airie_Foothills_Trail
2. The Washington Wildlife and Recreation Program (WWRP) is a state grant
program that creates and conserves local and state parks, wildlife habitat
and working farms. The Washington State Recreation and Conservation Office
administers WWRP grants, and the legislature funds the program.
Senator Roach, what is the best strategy to use here? Can you meet with the
applicable 4 Legislative District Senators shown below? There is an endless
list of open ended issues on these takings. I have listed many in this
email and also in the attached emails, especially in the one "Rural Property
Owner Tells...".
No title searches have been done for the hundreds of rural and urban
property owners these trails are going through. No one has been informed of
their rights, no independent land use expert counsel has been provided, no
history on the chicanery of the Rails to Trails takings have been provided,
ecetera, ecetera.
You know much better than I how to handle this situation. My thoughts are
to use this Rails To Trails taking as an opportunity to throw all this back
into some committee to work out a new "process" that is sensitive to the
rights of all the rural and urban private property owners abutting AND near
by. There is unending and growing list of hardship cases these Rails To
Trails create for the adjoining property owners.
Also we have some inside advantage with Steve Hammond being back with the
County under Councilman Reagan Dunn. Plus we have a recent local Rails To
Trails case decided in favor of the abutting property owners, please see
attached "Beres Rails to Trails Groen Case" However these cases are very
expensive, like $100K and are very title type dependent and chain of title
dependent and land grant dependent. There are numerous entanglements that
the state and Congress have created over the centuries.
I guess I can crudely summarize all the information in this email to one
point, even if the government can create some legal fiction they can take
the land that is not good enough. The government and special interest
agenda has been to work around the abutting and near by property owners.
Then at the last hour they launch a local PR campaign, exactly like you
experienced with the DOT forced roundabout attempt here in Enumclaw that you
all successfully squashed.
HELP!
Sincerely,
Jack Venrick
PS Also check out these sites FYI
1. http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/6006500p-5276571c.html
2.
http://www.rco.wa.gov/documents/rcfb/Grants/WWRP/WWRP_press_release_detail_r
eport.pdf ($8.5 million dollar requested budget!)
3. (NOT FOR PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION) Jack, the Beres case which is on Lake
Sammamish was handled by John Groen of Bellevue 425-453-6206. I suggest you
contact him to get a current location to copy the case. The first case is
the Hash case and John Groen can also give you the cite for it. We are
moving out of Washington State to Wyoming as Washington has gotten totally
out of hand politically. The Enumclaw ROW was slightly different that the
Hash and Beres case (1875 Act) as your ROW was granted by the Northern
Pacific land grant in 1864 although a few reroutes were granted under the
1875 Act. Groen may be able to help you out, but at a price. If I remember
correctly, the folks on your ROW had plenty of warning but chose to sit on
the sidelines until it is now probably too late as the Court of Claims has a
six year statute of limitations on filing. I gave a talk to the ROW owners
back in 1993 but received nothing but blank stares as I mentioned it would
probably cost them some money--so they got what they paid for--nothing.
Dick Welsh--NARPO
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jack <mailto:jacksranch at skynetbb.com> Venrick
To: AJack R. <mailto:jacksranch at skynetbb.com> Venrick
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:05 AM
Subject: Dear Property Owner - We Have Plans To "Railroad" Your Property
Soon - Please Come To Our "Open House"
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Dear Senators & Representatives of Legislative Districts 25, 27, 30 &31:
bcc: Property Rights Groups
Before we have any "pre & post operative" trail taking public meetings, I
would like to throw a few ideas on the trail so to speak.
A Rail to trail Act or a Congressional land act does not make the taking of
private or public land constitutional or legitimate or right, especially for
less than marginal land uses such as peddle biking. Congress, the judiciary
and the executive offices, have a long history of abuse at the national,
state & local levels of private property. The fed, states, counties and
cities can no longer have this double standard of shutting down private and
public property uses and then turning around and stealing our land for some
preferred selective marginal urban use. Said another way, we cannot be held
in a force field to maintain our rural traditional use while the urbanites
systemically use the Congress, executive offices and the judiciary to park
out our rural farms with more parks, bike trails, and unending green
nonsense by using semantic swindling.
Property taxes are unconstitutional and have been ruled so in at least 4
state high courts, i.e. they are not apportioned nor can they be
mathematically. It does not take a high court to see this is and it is
only a matter of time before each state will no longer "enjoy" taking
private property. At the same time there are also high court rulings that
the current federal tax taking of wages is also unconstitutional. The
current "income tax" system is an excise tax and cannot be levied again the
private Citizens.
Government cannot continue this agenda of stealing wages from the property
owners via private property taxes with the left hand and then stealing their
private or public property with the right hand. The end result is growing
government tyranny and violence. Whether you can find a court or a judge to
enforce these Rail to Trail takings is a matter of chance and money. If you
read some of the background of the King County Rails To Trails takings
attached above, you will learn that King County sent out some 250 letters to
those rural property owners abutting some of the sections. Thirty did not
respond and they were defaulted upon in the King County court system. Two
brave rural property owners, who live near me, fought.
King County or Pierce County are so under handed they cannot approach or
directly involve the abutting or nearby property owners in the community
hall. They only come to the community hall after they have spent decades in
the back planning rooms "saucering and blowing" their biking zealot little
trail of tears. One of the taken & protesting rural property owners to the
Enumclaw to Buckley rails to trails of their attorneys told me he was
afraid of loosing his license if he protested too much. All he would say to
the taking committee, i.e. Mayor of Enumclaw, King County Assist. PA, King
County Capital Planning & Development, at the time was, "we think you have a
double standard". You can read all about it in the attached email "Rural
Property Owner Tells Enumclaw Mayor & King County The Hard Truth.."
95% of the abutting trails is owned by private property owners in America
who have the reversionary rights according to the Godfather of Rails to
Trails takings Dick Walsh http://home.earthlink.net/~dick156/.
The misery caused of this current taking agenda by the state, county, city,
green groups and peddle bike groups are beyond understanding to 99% of those
whose "ox has not been gorged. Senator Roach knows what these tactics are
used by the state and county serial government groups upon the private
property owners.
Property owner more often give up their property and unalienable rights out
of ignorance or apathy or no time or money to fight.
* Why are the counties, cities and the state allowed to "railroad"
these trail takings on the QT?
* Why is the government even involved in "outdoor recreation",
especially the attorney for the land grabbing green extreme group
Futurewise?
* Why aren't the abutting or near by property owners informed of their
rights and given the history and agenda of the state rails to trails
takings?
* Why can't the peddle bikers use an expended side of the highways and
bridges vs. taking legitimately or not some poor property owners land?.
* Why are the county Park Departments allowed to take any private or
public property for a very narrow urban narrow specialized land use?
* Why does the state, county & city GOVERNMENTS collude to encourage
takings of rural private and public property for a narrow park like use?
* Why are unconstitutional private property taxes used against the
property owner to not only take his wages but the use of his land as well as
the encroachment to his land?
* Why are a few elite specialized urban groups allowed to encroach,
use, take, encumber, endanger and cost rural private property owners who
have no to negative interest in that sport?
* Why is "Rails To Trails" and other green agendas allowed to shut
down traditional land use while forcing specialized green sport use in the
very areas where the rural private property owners have little to no use of
their own lands and water?
* Why are the government and special interest groups allowed to
collude over decades to instigate these green and elite sport taking plans
while the particular rural community and its rural private property owners
have no say, no knowledge, no vote BUT ceremonial "post op" public pandering
MEETINGS LIKE ABOVE?
* This abuse of private property and the multiple use of public
property can no longer be tolerated by anyone.
* Rails To Trails and any green taking is a mere privilege that may or
may not be allowed depending totally on the private property owners free
choice and free will.
* There are over 800 federal and state court "decisions" regarding the
abandoning of railroad right-of-way. The message here is the dam government
needs to stay far far away from private and even the public use of public
property other than multiple use.
* Washington State has over 47 cases since 189.
* This sort of adversarial "railroading" of land use is "Titanic" in
nature.
* Multiple use of CERTAIN STATE AND NATIONAL LANDS SHOULD BE SET ASIDE
FOR TRAILS FOR BIKERS, HIKERS, ATV'ERS, HORSE BACK RIDERS, KAYAKERS, ETC.
* NO MULTIPLE USE SHOULD BE made to park out the rural or urban areas
which only lead to intolerable friction, conflict, court battles, private
and public costs unbearable to anyone with common sense and love for their
own neighbors.
* Government at any level should never ever stoop to use their own
biased & corrupt courts, executive offices or legislature or back room
tribunals to take specialized use of any private land or public land in the
immediate urban or surrounding rural areas. This is why we have vast
sections of national forests and parks, state forests and parks.
* The current takings are only the use of manipulation of the courts,
legislature and executive office who have no business doing any of this
* The current wave of abutting property owners on these trails are
for the most part victims of duress who do not have a vote for the taking of
the neighbors property
* Nobody's private property should be taken even in court for this
sort of petty elite urban biking recreation
* It is quite simple and relative inexpensive to just use the sides of
the existing roadways and bridges for the all hikers and bikers even if the
existing bed has to be extended IF people want to approve this expense of
the existing road tax funds.
* The current so called Washington State Interagency Committee for
Outdoor Recreation is not just unconstitutional and fraudulent, it is
immoral and criminal in the way it is treating abutting private property
owners along this trail of tears.
* This "Stepford" town & county mentality of believing you can
influence and change the laws of the land, the Constitution, the Common law,
the Natural Laws, God's law are half truths. While you can change the
"laws" to anything you wish to take from A to give to B, it is substance
over form
I hear one lone small town doctor started this whole mess of taking via the
rails to trails at least in the south end. I will spare him the
embarrassment or fame of mentioning his name.
All funding of these trail takings need to be stopped immediately. This is
no way to treat anyone, let alone upstanding private property owners who are
already wrapped around the government axle of taking a hundred times.
If you need more evidence, more reasons, more pictures, more suffering, more
government and bike zealot caused insanity read the attached emails and the
government's own admission of the problems below. Anyone who is so naive to
think that there are no problems taking property for A and giving it to B,
should talk to me or better yet, I will invite you to our next little
property rights "Little Shop of Horror Stories" on the latest takings of
King and other Communist counties around the green insane Puget Sound.
This part of Washington State, i.e. the Puget Sound is beyond compare and
will live in infamy with its karmic debauchery it has suffered upon all the
innocent good upstanding credible private property owners. With all due
respect to each of you in our "hallowed halls" of the Senate, Legislature,
Executive Office & the Judiciary, many if not most of you are totally
clueless of the downstream impact of your political biased decisions. Each
and every ruling you people make is used multiple times AGAINST THE POOR
AND INNOCENT PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE ONLY TRYING TO MAKE IT THOUGH
THE DAY.
All of you in government, directly and indirectly have taken an oath to
protect private property.
John (Jack) R. Venrick
Enumclaw, Washington
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This sign is now gone, shortly after I released the pictures of the trail
takings and the story.
One quarter million dollars just for the City of Buckley.
Let's not even count all of the other cites and rivers and gorges, water
lines, gas lines, high power transmission lines...
The abutting and nearby property owners didn't know what hit them
Lets not count the thousands of abutting property owners and adjacent
property owners along these little taking trails of tears
The voters don't have a clue either.
Only "The Shadow" Government and Governor knows what is going on behind
closed doors for the last decade and more
Washington State Interagency Committee for Outdoor Recreation is headed by
Kaleen Cottingham, who has represented Futurewise, an environmental extreme
shell organization. See excerpt on her below extracted from email above
entitled "Enumclaw to Buckley Rails to Trails - the Little Trail of Tears."
OLYMPIA - Governor Chris Gregoire today announced the appointment of Kaleen
Cottingham of Olympia as the director of the Recreation and Conservation
Office, formerly the Interagency Committee for Outdoor Recreation. The
office supports five boards that create and maintain recreation
opportunities in Washington, protect the state's wild lands and contribute
to salmon recovery efforts.
"The Recreation and Conservation Office is responsible for maintaining much
of what gives Washingtonians such a high quality of life - recreation
opportunities, a diverse biological heritage and a commitment to salmon
recovery. I am excited that Kaleen Cottingham will be leading this office as
they move into a new chapter," said Governor Gregoire. "She has worked on
natural resources issues in Washington her entire career and brings a depth
of knowledge to the position."
Cottingham, 51, owns a legal consulting firm, focusing on natural resources
and environmental permitting and projects. As a lawyer, she has worked on a
proposal to build a national research laboratory near Leavenworth, supported
the Election Reform Task Force, facilitated the development of a
water-planning process in King County and a dispute over the Thurston County
off-road vehicle park.
She also has represented Futurewise, a statewide land use advocacy group, on
legislative issues.
Cottingham is a member of the faculty in the paralegal program at Tacoma
Community College, where she taught environmental law, land use and basic
paralegal training. She was appointed by Governor Locke as a member of the
Pollution Control and Shorelines Hearings Board from 2001 - 2003, hearing
appeals of decisions regarding pollution, water rights, hazardous waste
facilities and shoreline development rights.
She was the Deputy Commissioner of Public Lands from 1997 - 2001 and led the
agency's strategic direction and policy initiatives on a wide variety of
natural resources issues. From 1993 - 1997, she was the Supervisor of the
Department of Natural Resources, where she as responsible for both the
day-to-day operations of the department as well as governmental and public
relations. Prior to this, Cottingham served as the natural resources policy
advisor and then the legal counsel for Governor Gardner.
Kaleen Cottingham, State Policy Representative for Futurewise, participated
in negotiations during the 2007 Washington state legislative session that
led to the enactment of SB 5248 relating to agriculture and critical areas.
This is a shameful act and black mark upon Governor Gregorie and the State
to place such an extreme green radical in a position like this. You may as
well give the money directly to Futurewise ex 1000 Friends of Washington so
they can go around and sue every property owner and city in Washington
State.
Looks like the trail is a Pierce and King County taking with the help of the
Washington State Interagency Committee for Outdoor Recreation
You can read all the background attached I have been able to dig up that I
can show publicly
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Looks like the trail takings cross at least legislative districts 27, 25, 30
and 31
District Legislators
Senator Debbie Regala <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/senate/regala>
Democrat
Representative Dennis Flannigan <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/flannigan>
Position 1, Democrat
Representative Jeannie Darneille <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/darneille>
Position 2, Democrat
Sound to Mountain Rail to Trail Encroaching on the unsuspecting property
owners
Whether they want it or not,
Whether they own it or not,
Whether they know it or not,
Whether they can afford an highly specialized land use attorney or not,
District Legislators
Senator Jim Kastama <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/senate/kastama>
Democrat
Representative Joyce McDonald <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/mcdonald>
Position 1, Republican
Representative Dawn Morrell <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/morrell>
Position 2, Democrat
Don't worry, all the details have been taken off by King and Pierce County
Park Departments
and the Washington State Governors Office
and the Washington State Interagency Committee For Outdoor Recreation
and all the little taking cities along the trail
and the county Prosecuting Attorney offices are busy sending out mail
threatening suit if you try to prevail
District Legislators
Senator Pam Roach <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/senate/roach>
Republican
Representative Dan Roach <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/roach>
Position 1, Republican
Representative Christopher Hurst <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/hurst>
Position 2, Democrat
You want a park?
You want a trail?
You want a wetland?
You want a dry land?
You want fish?
You want a bird?
You want it "Critical" or "Sensitive" or just Rare?
You want it "endangered maybe
You want license or a code or a perhaps a fee?
Come one come all
To the Puget Sound Communist County ball
But if you want to use your land as you see fit
Or build or remodel or develop it
Just forget it
District Legislators
Senator Pam Roach <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/senate/roach>
Republican
Representative Dan Roach <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/roach>
Position 1, Republican
Representative Christopher Hurst <http://www1.leg.wa.gov/house/hurst>
Position 2, Democrat
Here is my "favorite county
I live here well not really anymore
The communist have moved in
I merely rent my land that I once owned
>From the green collectivist
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How many ways can you destroy private and public property, let me, no I have
already done that, see attached. Even better let the government count its
own ways. Please see below.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/rectrails/rwt/references.htm
Rails-with-Trails: Lessons Learned
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Aeppel, T. (1995 October 16). Angry landowners turn public paths into
unhappy trails. Wall Street Journal, eastern ed., p. A1+.
Aizenman, N. (1997 October). The case for more regulation. Washington
Monthly, p. 16-21.
Alaska Railroad Corporation and the Municipality of Anchorage. (1987 August
24). Permit for Coastal Bike Trail, Amended and Restated. Anchorage, AK.
Alta Transportation Consulting. (2001). Union Pacific Railroad Trail
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